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03-02-2018, 07:53 PM
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Senior Member
City: FT.Pierce, Fl
Vessel Name: Tuna Talk
Vessel Model: CC Tournament 30
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 173
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New Search Light
Thinking of purchasing a search light and have been reviewing some on various websites. Seems the ss or aluminum units average about $1K and the plastic units are 1/2 the cost or less. I'd like to get opinions from folks who have plastic or have owned both. Does the plastic units hold up against UV and weather over time or will you be replacing them with a metal housing unit relatively quickly?
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03-02-2018, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member
City: Bainbridge Island
Vessel Name: Mahalo
Vessel Model: 2018 Hampton Endurance 658
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 496
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Jim, just throwing this out there, an alternative. When I was working on this for my boat, most of my friends said "the mounted ones are a pain, hard to move where you want, plus your boat is rocking, then the bulb goes out, yada yada."
There are many handheld ones with tons of power. Rechargeable. So you can take them anywhere, and also take along in your tender if you wish.
Like: https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-4...t+rechargeable
JustBob
M/V Mahalo - Blog
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03-02-2018, 08:09 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Nostra Casa
Vessel Model: C&L Puget Trawler 44
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 85
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I replaced our big stainless standard bulb search light about 5 years ago with the Stryker and mounted in front of the boat on the railing, it is so light that minimal base needed. It has held up extremely well with 2 trips to Alaska and lots of green water over it with no problems. Looks brand new and have only had to replace the batteries in the remotes 1 time. Put remotes at helm and flybridge and handheld remote when checking anchoring at night. Having it mounted in front of everything cuts down on any glare from the boat. The LED is so much brighter than before. Recommend with no hesitation. Went with the Stainless look [emoji102]
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/goli...te-controllers
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03-02-2018, 10:35 PM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
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If you do go with a mounted one, I would recommend going with one that has a small joystick type controller, rather than a pad with buttons. The latter is a real PIA.
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03-02-2018, 11:19 PM
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City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,195
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I had two remote lights, both hi-buck jobs with wired remotes, both axial motors shot, both not worth fixing, look nice bit too $$ to maintain. Using big handhelds now. Kept inside, easy to charge and better control for less. Of course, not as attractive but infinately more practical.
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"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
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03-03-2018, 12:03 AM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
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+1 to Just Bob's comment about what a PITA mounted searchlights are. I have two on my boat and the only one I ever use is the handheld, rechargeable one on the upper helm. It's easy to pick it up and point it, just like you would if you were pointing your finger at something, and you don't have to take your eyes off whatever it is you're illuminating to look for the dash mounted searchlight controller.
The ones I buy are the 1 million cp lights, cost about $25 and last about 4-5 years before they won't take a charge any more.
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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03-03-2018, 05:36 AM
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Member
City: Bellmore
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 11
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I too like my hand-held for all the above reasons mentioned, but I am still contemplating replacing my fixed spot for when i drive from inside the pilot house.
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03-03-2018, 08:50 AM
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City: Vermont
Join Date: Jan 2013
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We have a Guest Beamer, fixed mount, with remote control in the pilot house. We also have a hand held.
The hand held is very convenient, and you of course know exactly where you are pointing it. However it's hard to use from inside the pilot house while operating the boat because it reflects off the windows. The only way it works is if held directly against the glass so there is no reflection back, and that limits where you can aim it. Outside this isn't a problem. The other down side is that it's handheld, so takes a hand away from controlling the boat. I found this to be a real problem in many situations.
The Guest Beamer isn't nearly bright enough to be useful. I don't know how many candelas or lumins it is, but it's not enough. I have a lot of trouble just figuring out where the beam is pointing so I know which way to move it to illuminate the target of interest.
Doing it again, I would not get another Beamer. It's just not bright enough to be useful. I definitely would get the handheld. It's useful, though not is all situations.
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03-03-2018, 09:28 AM
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Guru
City: Pender Harbour, BC
Vessel Name: Gwaii Haanas
Vessel Model: Custom Aluminum 52
Join Date: Sep 2013
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I have two lights mounted in my bow which used aircraft landing lights, high amperage draw and hard to find at 12 volts so I bought two round spotlights with leds and converted them. They work much better so I plan to replace the giant incandescent seal beam roof mounted unit with the guts of an led unit the same way.
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03-03-2018, 09:59 AM
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City: Washington
Join Date: Nov 2017
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I had a mounted light on a previous boat. It was useless. Trying to drive the boat and aim the light was close to impossible unless the boat was stopped in calm water.
My current boat came with a handheld searchlight that plugs into a 12 volt outlet. I've used it once and it's pretty intuitive to use. Just point it at what you want to look at.
Contrary to what some folks seem to believe, boats aren't supposed to have headlights. When I operate at night, I rely on ambient light and slowing down. This works well for me. Using a spot or floodlight hurts your night vision and it can take as long as 30 minutes to get it back.
My choice of light is a portable, hand held for use in emergencies only.
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03-03-2018, 10:12 AM
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City: Miami
Join Date: Jul 2013
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If you are going to add a searchlight then location is critical. You want to locate it on the centerline high enough so that there is no backscatter when pointed down in all directions and amidships so that pitching has the least effect. I‘ve used handhelds most of my life but I finally broke down and added a proper light last year.
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03-03-2018, 11:05 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
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in open water I agree fixed spotlights can be borderline useful. A good handheld will be good for the quick spotting.
In confined waters if able to use it and not bother other traffic, I find it very useful in ICW stretches where your night vision is toast anyway from other sources of light.
You almost always see tugs using them when pushing narrow stretches of ICW, bridges, and picking up navaids....can be too bad of an idea.
I leave mine pointed at whatever angle is best, then slightly change heading as needed to keep the beam on target.
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03-03-2018, 11:29 AM
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Senior Member
City: FT.Pierce, Fl
Vessel Name: Tuna Talk
Vessel Model: CC Tournament 30
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 173
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Great responses. I hadn't thought of it but arming myself with a fixed and handheld light seems like a great solution to deal with all possible situations. Still a little unsure of the plastic vs. steel casing on the fixed unit. Is twice the cost for the ss or aluminum casings worth it for extreme salt and UV environments.
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03-03-2018, 11:31 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
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My boat is 8 years old and has a plastic housed mounted searchlight on the PH roof. It has held up very well.
I have found the searchlight useful about 3 times in the two years I’ve owned the boat. I think a rechargeable hand held is more useful PROVIDED that you can keep it charged up. I have an old hand held that works well. A newer LED hand held would probably work even better.
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03-03-2018, 12:59 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,611
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I have only a handheld, so I can comment only on that. Mine has been easy to use and handy when anchoring after dark, to scan the area surrounding the location I think I want to anchor in. For this purpose the ability to scan 360° is necessary.
On the rescue boat, a night tow requires a spotlight shone on the tow, so as to alert the helm, should the towline be too slack or tight, the tow oscillating from port to Starboard, or any other problems with the tow. For that purpose a handheld is far better than a fixed light.
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03-03-2018, 01:56 PM
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City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
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....another consideration: Depending on the size of your boat, a bow mounted light of the same brightness will reach 20 feet or so further ahead of the boat than a handheld.
However, if I was going with a handheld, I'd get something like this for a little over $200.
https://www.batteryjunction.com/feni...lashlight.html
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03-03-2018, 02:13 PM
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Guru
City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kwestby
I replaced our big stainless standard bulb search light about 5 years ago with the Stryker and mounted in front of the boat on the railing, it is so light that minimal base needed. It has held up extremely well with 2 trips to Alaska and lots of green water over it with no problems. Looks brand new and have only had to replace the batteries in the remotes 1 time. Put remotes at helm and flybridge and handheld remote when checking anchoring at night. Having it mounted in front of everything cuts down on any glare from the boat. The LED is so much brighter than before. Recommend with no hesitation. Went with the Stainless look [emoji102]
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/goli...te-controllers
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Kwestby,
Is there an LED option? The specs show it's halogen, like most mounted spot lights. Seems to be very few LED ones out there.
I'm in the handheld camp... for the most part. However, my mounted ACR RCL-100D works fine and is easy to operate without looking at the controls, but not a fast as a handheld.
The issue I have is finding a REALLY POWERFULL handheld. Regardless of all the lumens and candle power they advertise, seems like my mounted one it more powerful. It's really hard to figure out what the specs of candlepower or lumens really mean. However, is one is rated stronger than another of the same manufacturer, it probably is.
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03-03-2018, 02:16 PM
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Guru
City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBob
Jim, just throwing this out there, an alternative. When I was working on this for my boat, most of my friends said "the mounted ones are a pain, hard to move where you want, plus your boat is rocking, then the bulb goes out, yada yada."
There are many handheld ones with tons of power. Rechargeable. So you can take them anywhere, and also take along in your tender if you wish.
Like: https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-4...t+rechargeable
JustBob
M/V Mahalo - Blog
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Bob,
I've got the little brother of this one and love it, but it's not for long range. Perhaps I'll get one like you have. The thing that I love (and insist on) is the ability to turn it on and off instantly, without cycling thru a bunch of useless settings, flashing and such... especially for quickly locating a marker, which my little one is great for, not so bright to totally blind me, but can find an unlit marker about 500 feet away, which is enough.
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03-03-2018, 03:46 PM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,586
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Any good quality light will state that their specifications comply with ANSI FL-1 standards and presented in a chart that looks like:
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03-05-2018, 09:25 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,983
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I have a 12v handheld, but the last time I used it was probably at least 10 years ago.
I guess it's time to test it to see if it still works.
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Jay Leonard
Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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