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slowgoesit 01-21-2022 11:32 AM

Fender overkill!
 
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I ran across this pic recently, and am still trying to figure out what the operator of the boat was trying to protect him/herself from . . . :nonono:

KnotYet 01-21-2022 11:36 AM

Ready for a raft-up party?

SeaDogAK 01-21-2022 11:43 AM

They even have fenders on the flybridge. There are more pictures of the boat, and the fenders, on their charter site:

https://dev.sonnencharter.de/product/laurabuc-fr/

Soo-Valley 01-21-2022 11:49 AM

New girlfriend asked to drive the boat

soin2la 01-21-2022 11:56 AM

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Sorry, I don't understand...

koliver 01-21-2022 12:16 PM

speed bumps...er...kayaks

Gdavid 01-21-2022 12:17 PM

Maybe they are all gifts from their marina neighbors given out of self interest.

Alaskaflyer 01-21-2022 12:26 PM

Cheaper than boat handling training?

I’m reminded of a friend of mine who grew up in Southeast Alaska, as a child lived aboard boats, worked for various government agencies where operating skiffs and other small boats was necessary, took the obligatory boat training more than once..who to this day has the strategy of crashing her (small but heavily built aluminum center console) boat into the dock in a controlled collision. Probably played into her and her husband’s choice of boat? He just shrugs.

ScottC 01-21-2022 12:35 PM

This looks like many a holiday rental boat on French canals. There is no requirement in France to have any boating knowledge, license or training whatsoever in order to rent a 50' boat like this for a week. Trust me, the ridiculous number of fenders you see in the picture is necessary. On the positive side, I can say these rental boats provide a fairly constant source of entertainment for other boaters while cruising the canals...if one can maintain a safe distance ;-)

ScottC 01-21-2022 12:40 PM

Did a little research on the name on the bow. It's, indeed, a town in France. And you can rent this boat or a sister on a weekly basis here:
https://www.boataround.com/se/bat/ni...fly-c-laurabuc
I imagine they even come with spare fenders, just in case some are lost in transit ;-)

kthoennes 01-21-2022 12:41 PM

I could have used that setup on a few ugly dockings in crosswinds.

Lepke 01-21-2022 02:27 PM

While overkill, the fenders are for going thru locks.

BandB 01-21-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 1070631)
Did a little research on the name on the bow. It's, indeed, a town in France. And you can rent this boat or a sister on a weekly basis here:
https://www.boataround.com/se/bat/ni...fly-c-laurabuc
I imagine they even come with spare fenders, just in case some are lost in transit ;-)

I can't say we saw any with fenders on the flybridge, but we saw many last summer with a lot of fenders kept permanently out. Also, a lot of rafting of the rental boats due to shortage of dock space. May look strange, but practical.

Have seen somewhat similar in the US on houseboats and have seen many rental houseboats on the TN and Cumberland Rivers for which it would probably be a good idea. When you get in a lock and one enters and can't get tied and soon is facing the wrong way and finally the lockmaster gives up and tells them to just tie as they are and worry it at the other end, letting everyone else exit the lock first.

Inbreaker 01-23-2022 04:18 AM

That is hilarious.

Peter B 01-23-2022 05:46 AM

That overkill of fenders is also commonplace on the UK waterways as well. Not sure what it says about the boat-handling skills of many Europeans, but there is no denying there must be a cogent reason for it. :D

boomerang 01-23-2022 06:23 AM

Wayfarer got a new boat?
Sorry swamp commander...I suppose you don't keep quite that many fenders over the side. :rofl:

North Baltic sea 01-23-2022 10:59 AM

Hi,

Chaos in canal

https://youtu.be/9gScVOM4OjY

NBs

High Wire 01-23-2022 11:10 AM

Niagara falls attempt?:D

backinblue 01-23-2022 11:11 AM

I've always thought a canal cruise in Europe would be a fun vacation someday. Youtube is convincing me otherwise.

Solly 01-23-2022 11:14 AM

I just want a boat with that amount of storage.

ScottC 01-23-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by backinblue (Post 1071153)
I've always thought a canal cruise in Europe would be a fun vacation someday. Youtube is convincing me otherwise.


It's only like that in July & August, when many Europeans have 5-6 week holidays. Rest of the year, it's not congested at all. For France, a really popular canal-cruising destination, I would recommend Late May-June. September-Oct would also be nice, but riskier, as we found out. Drought conditions can cause some French canals to run low on water necessary for normal operation...and they can close for the season with as little as a one-week notice (if you're lucky enough to see that notice pinned on the lock keeper's house...)

BandB 01-23-2022 01:43 PM

I think it makes a lot of sense. Canals, slow speed, rafting, fenders in and out, why not just leave them in place. In some of the canals, I really see no reason for every bringing them on board and cluttering your deck and storage space and lining the boat with fenders makes sense. I'd suggest even having tubes created like on a RIB.

ScottC 01-23-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BandB (Post 1071185)
I think it makes a lot of sense. Canals, slow speed, rafting, fenders in and out, why not just leave them in place. In some of the canals, I really see no reason for every bringing them on board and cluttering your deck and storage space and lining the boat with fenders makes sense. I'd suggest even having tubes created like on a RIB.


"Slow"? I did not know that word even existed in your vocabulary :rofl:


When I was a boy, boating with my Dad, I was the one who had to take the fenders in. They had to be in by the time we exited the harbor! In the Erie canal, they had to be pulled in between each and every lock. That was not as bad as it sounds, as the many locks are spread over the hundreds of miles of New York State. To this day, I always want to cruise with fenders IN. But, as you say, there comes a point where taking fenders (and boards) in is entirely impractical. Many of the old European canals have so many locks that one can come to the next one only after a kilometer or two. And then, maybe a flight of seven, just for fun. (Actually "flights" are a very efficient way to get the pain over with as fast as possible).

BandB 01-23-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 1071190)
"Slow"? I did not know that word even existed in your vocabulary :rofl:


We went slow on the Thames and the Seine and have on the Erie, but while those were slow by our definition, nothing like the other canals of France, although Paris was quite congested and we had to dock at a rental company's dock. But then we did rent a tour boat for a couple of days, just without the boat, just the captain and guide to show us around while on our boat. And then don't forget that we live in an area of canals that we generally only travel through on kayaks and paddleboards but people with all types of boats come in and out from their homes regularly. We do occasionally canal cruise here in our RIB's. That's wall to wall fender.

Sure was nice after a few days on a canal (Yes, rivers but fit description of canal better), to be able to open up and run 40-50 knots.

ScottC 01-23-2022 02:36 PM

Very clever idea to charter a tour boat without the boat! Makes complete sense in your situation. I have thought about hiring an off-duty fisherman as a sort of guide for some areas where I might want to cruise that require local knowledge. Haven't done it yet, however...

Have been considering a future trip down the Rhine to Basel. There are parts of the Rhine in Germany where a commercial captain's license is required -- even for pleasure boaters. Most don't bother with it, but if you get stopped by the authorities, a captain will be appointed to travel with you...at about 100€/hour, so I've read.

OldDan1943 01-23-2022 05:40 PM

A lot can be said for being the last in line.

Notice the light is still red when everyone was pushing into the canal?

OldDan1943 01-23-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by slowgoesit (Post 1070598)
I ran across this pic recently, and am still trying to figure out what the operator of the boat was trying to protect him/herself from . . . :nonono:

Perhaps the guy is selling or renting fenders?

Wayfarer 01-23-2022 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by boomerang (Post 1071091)
Wayfarer got a new boat?
Sorry swamp commander...I suppose you don't keep quite that many fenders over the side. :rofl:

Lookit allllllllllllllllll them rubber baby buggy bumpers.....

https://media.giphy.com/media/ncsQI9sF3pa8w/giphy.gif

phillippeterson 01-24-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by backinblue (Post 1071153)
I've always thought a canal cruise in Europe would be a fun vacation someday. Youtube is convincing me otherwise.

We thought the same. And, YouTube is making us rethink the whole thing.

BandB 01-24-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phillippeterson (Post 1071324)
We thought the same. And, YouTube is making us rethink the whole thing.

Wifey B: What is it about YouTube that is discouraging you from the canals? Perhaps it's timing? Don't let a few videos discourage you. :nonono::nonono::nonono:

See the locks on the Ohio or Ballard Lock on July 4 and you'd never travel to either area, yet both are well worth it. We lived on a lake that was horrific on July 4 but so peaceful and beautiful other times. When France has their vacation shut down isn't the time for visitors to think they'll have all the tourist world to themselves. :)

Beware The Juilletistes and The Aoûtiens. :rofl:

Now we were there in early August but then we're use to large numbers of people and didn't even realize it was anything more than summer tourism. Of course, we live in a tourist area. :D

backinblue 01-24-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BandB (Post 1071367)
Wifey B: What is it about YouTube that is discouraging you from the canals? Perhaps it's timing? Don't let a few videos discourage you. :nonono::nonono::nonono:

See the locks on the Ohio or Ballard Lock on July 4 and you'd never travel to either area, yet both are well worth it. We lived on a lake that was horrific on July 4 but so peaceful and beautiful other times. When France has their vacation shut down isn't the time for visitors to think they'll have all the tourist world to themselves. :)

Beware The Juilletistes and The Aoûtiens. :rofl:

Now we were there in early August but then we're use to large numbers of people and didn't even realize it was anything more than summer tourism. Of course, we live in a tourist area. :D

I don't mind large numbers of people at times, but having lots of clueless boaters trying to manuver in a canal, does not look like a fun vacation IMO. Might be fun if you are standing on the bridge with a drink in hand enjoying the entertainment!

BandB 01-24-2022 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by backinblue (Post 1071475)
I don't mind large numbers of people at times, but having lots of clueless boaters trying to manuver in a canal, does not look like a fun vacation IMO. Might be fun if you are standing on the bridge with a drink in hand enjoying the entertainment!

Wifey B: Fortunately we never saw any large clusterf... It was all rather civilized where we were, on the Seine and in Paris. Thames was busier with faster boats but also larger. Didn't venture on any of the narrower canals although did explore briefly some canals in the Netherlands. :D

DWJensen 01-24-2022 07:20 PM

We had a great time on the Canal du Midi in the South of France about 10 years back - Spent two weeks exploring by water and saw all sorts, both onshore and on the water. Quite a few good-sized charter boats with a lot of clueless operators too.

We followed this boat one day and watched their meanderings and near misses until they finally created an opportunity for us to pass by missing (or rather by hitting) one of the many bridges...
https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...icture7361.jpg

https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...icture7362.jpg
(no injuries but I think they used their damage waiver that day)

Jarrow Lily 01-25-2022 09:34 AM

We make our canal boats from steel in the UK. Only need fenders for a quiet night alongside a wall.

Our Narrow Canals - mostly the 18th century ones - have locks that are only seven feet wide. The boats are six foot ten. And can be 70 feet long.
A bit like threading a needle sometimes. :D

squimmy27 01-28-2022 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 1070630)
This looks like many a holiday rental boat on French canals. There is no requirement in France to have any boating knowledge, license or training whatsoever in order to rent a 50' boat like this for a week. Trust me, the ridiculous number of fenders you see in the picture is necessary. On the positive side, I can say these rental boats provide a fairly constant source of entertainment for other boaters while cruising the canals...if one can maintain a safe distance ;-)

I've barged in France a few times on my GFs Dutch barge - as soon as I saw the picture I recognized it. Yes, anyone can rent a canal barge/vessel and on any given day you need to navigate a few to a few dozen locks, many with significant drops/rises. The fenders are to protect within the locks...and the owner's investment in the charter

john-o 01-28-2022 02:20 PM

We have a boat in a local marina named "BING-BADA-BOOM." These would be a
nice appointment.

NYHattman 01-28-2022 02:35 PM

Fender overkill
 
It's obvious he's a lobbyist for the big fender companies! :socool:

Ric in Richmond 01-28-2022 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowgoesit (Post 1070598)
I ran across this pic recently, and am still trying to figure out what the operator of the boat was trying to protect him/herself from . . . :nonono:


Themselves!!!

Henk 01-29-2022 03:13 AM

In the French canals this configuration can be needed:socool:

kierasdady 01-30-2022 12:22 AM

Bns
 
That's a Braille Navigation System.


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