Outboard powered Trawlers?

[CPseudonym]

Originally Posted by Al

You have a hull that given the go ahead, would make a respectful 12-14 knots I'd suspect.
Al

Try GPS verified 32 in flat calm water trimmed out


It's gonna kill me to give up that speed someday but this engine has way more horsepower than should really be in this boat. Passes everything but a fuel dock.

[N4712]

Originally Posted by CPseudonym

Passes everything but a fuel dock.

[Nomad Willy]

83 posts if you count Ron's.

There are trawlers and there are outboard boats.

[Moonstruck]

Originally Posted by manyboats

83 posts if you count Ron's.

There are trawlers and there are outboard boats.

Agreed Eric. I think the 4 stroke outboard was a game changer. You can run them fast or slow. A good turn of speed when needed is a good thing. You can also use a small say 40 hp outboard with a 15 hp kicker for fishing and a get home engine. For protected water cruising I like the Roseborough. I have had them pull into an anchorage with me many times. Two came into Pelican Bay one night. Both carrying boats on the roof top. I think the 4 stroke outboard will carve out a niche on cruising boats.

[N4712]

Originally Posted by manyboats

There are trawlers and there are outboard boats.

Very well put Erik!

[eyschulman]

If it has not been mentioned what about a OB down east type. These boats are proven seaworthy and can run economically slow or faster and there is a wide selection from 24 to 30 foot many are trailer capable. To look into this try Downeast form for leads to this type.

[healhustler]

Originally Posted by Moonstruck

That Roseborough is a lot of boat in 24'. I have seen them up and down the ICW. Covered aft decks with room for dinghy and kayaks on the roof. Decent accommodations. A four stroke outboard would be my choice of power. Quiet and economical cruising.

It must be, Don. One our most prolific and knowlegeable Manatee cruisers just sold his boat and plans to downsize to a Rosborough with outboard power. He and his Admiral want the peace and quiet.

[Marin]

Originally Posted by Al

By the way, the 32 foot Grand Bank is a single. If it is 20 years old I would think it is fiberglass, could be wrong on that.

You are correct.

[healhustler]

Originally Posted by Rustybarge

The boat in question, is it a trawler? It's light at only 3 tons, but it has the reverse tilted windows, looks like a commercial boat, is used by bona fide fishermen to make their living.

It's good that you mentioned the reverse slanted windows, no doubt, the accepted mark of any serious trawler or trawler style of vessel.

[Al]

Didn't anybody, anybody advise Rustybarge about slanted windows and anchors?? Sheeeee here goes the thread!! From OB powered boats to slanted windows in five pages. I guess in the schema of things this qualifies theam creep. Damn! I love this forum!!

Al

[CPseudonym]

Does anyone know if some of the early small Ranger Tugs came with outboard?

I see the R-21's now come with diesel.

[Al]

PC- I believe diesel is all that is used in the full line of Rangers.

On the subject of slanted windows and OB powered rigs, here is a current listing in Seattle Craiglist:

2008 Sea Sport 260 Alaskan Pilothouse

[Rustybarge]

Originally Posted by Al

Another boat for sale on our local online blog site:
A common conversion of a former I/O boat to OB. So common as to not be unusual as a first choice over new engine/outdrive.

Staying with my 6.plus knot pocket trawler, like the comfort, time on the water watching and enjoying the passing shoreline with my Sirius radio ear head set tuned to Willie's Road House, cup of "gas boat" coffee.
So much is missed pounding through the water watching for drift and raising hell on the kidneys. Just saying.
Al



Boat for Sale
26 foot Olympic XL Hardtop with 225 hp Honda Outboard (20 hours) and 15 hp High Thrust Honda Kicker. Both Engines excellent condition & just like new! Both with 3 year warranty remaining. Rigged for sportfishing / dual station hydraulic steering. Includes Scotty Pro-Pak Downriggers, King 3-axle Galvanized Trailer in very good condition. New Stand-up Head. Lots of gear and too many extras to list. $35,000.00 OBO call 617-2413 Serious inquiries only.

Posted: Sat, 30 Aug. 2014
Expires: Mon, 29 Sep. 2014

Thanks for those links:

Very interesting about converting an I/O to OB; nobody's thought of that here. Is this an easy conversion . it sounds right as the OB and will sit on the transom and give approx the same balance/trim as the inboard diesel.

Love the tuff boats.

[Rustybarge]

Originally Posted by eyschulman

If it has not been mentioned what about a OB down east type. These boats are proven seaworthy and can run economically slow or faster and there is a wide selection from 24 to 30 foot many are trailer capable. To look into this try Downeast form for leads to this type.

We know absolutely nothing about down east boats over here.
I would be grateful if you give me a summary of their characterises.
Would a 32' be suitable for OB's?

[psneeld]

Skipping back through some posts...hard not to go ahead and say it....

But it's been said and supported by some...that a TRAWLER...is a boat that drags nets for a living.

Well...I have seen plenty of outboard boats dragging nets for a living and never most of the boats owned here...yes one GB that was fitted out for trolling...but not to many of the generically called trawlers here...

So before we eliminate "outboard trawlers" .....some here ought to listen to the ebb and flow of "info" here that can only be called entertainment....

[Rustybarge]

Originally Posted by psneeld

Skipping back through some posts...hard not to go ahead and say it....

But it's been said and supported by some...that a TRAWLER...is a boat that drags nets for a living.

Well...I have seen plenty of outboard boats dragging nets for a living and never most of the boats owned here...yes one GB that was fitted out for trolling...but not to many of the generically called trawlers here...

So before we eliminate "outboard trawlers" .....some here ought to listen to the ebb and flow of "info" here that can only be called entertainment....

Thanks for your support.

As a matter of fact, the little photo you see by my name is a Cheetah commercial fishing Cat, and it is used by inshore fishermen on the south coast of England as a lobster boat.

Here's the link: Cheetah Marine LLP

I thought I would muddy the waters some more:

Does the cheetah have forward sloping windows: check
Is it a commercial boat used by fishermen: check
Is it a stable platform: check
Can it cruise at displ speeds : check

So.....

My little Cat IS a trawler by those definitions: so there!

[Nomad Willy]

Rustybarge wrote;
"Very interesting about converting an I/O to OB; nobody's thought of that here. Is this an easy conversion . it sounds right as the OB and will sit on the transom and give approx the same balance/trim as the inboard diesel."

That is very popular in the US and usually done the quick and dirty way by attaching a standoff bracket to the transom so the OB is entirely aft of the transom ...... with nothing under it for support. The CG is moved further aft when it's already probably too far aft. It's not ideal or even good but it's easy and inexpensive. Also considerably more room is generated in the aft cockpit .. A plus to be sure but the pluses are few.

My take on it is that if one wants a bigger boat just extend the stern .. and some people do.


Rustybarge I like your posts just not the subject of trying to be vogue by turning your high performance OB boat into a trawler. It isn't. And many have tried that in the past w much much more trawler like boats than yours. Trawlerness is vogue now and all things vogue pass so if you're a very patient man you may succeed but by the time you do it won't be vogue anymore.

I like what I see of both you and your boat but I for one won't be calling your boat a trawler. But a good poster you are and I hope you become a long time member here especially with your "out of the box" and "other world" experience and background you have a great potential to keep us thinking and in perspective.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by manyboats

......... My take on it is that if one wants a bigger boat just extend the stern .. and some people do.

I would say if one wants a bigger boat, the simplest and most practical solution is t sell the too small boat and buy a bigger boat.

[Northern Spy]

Originally Posted by manyboats

There are trawlers and there are outboard boats.

I know that there are outboard boats.

However, I'm not so sure that trawlers exist.

[Moonstruck]

Originally Posted by manyboats

Rustybarge wrote;
"Very interesting about converting an I/O to OB; nobody's thought of that here. Is this an easy conversion . it sounds right as the OB and will sit on the transom and give approx the same balance/trim as the inboard diesel."

That is very popular in the US and usually done the quick and dirty way by attaching a standoff bracket to the transom so the OB is entirely aft of the transom ...... with nothing under it for support. The CG is moved further aft when it's already probably too far aft. It's not ideal or even good but it's easy and inexpensive. Also considerably more room is generated in the aft cockpit .. A plus to be sure but the pluses are few.

My take on it is that if one wants a bigger boat just extend the stern .. and some people do.

Actually, Eric, the beauty of the I/O conversion to outboard power is being able to keep the full transom with no cut out. Usually the outboard sits on a bracket attached to the transom completely outside the boat. Look at how the Roseborough engine is mounted.