First, I am verbose, my apologies.
New member and first post.
I find myself in the odd position of having LOIs (letter of intent), on both a Kadey-Krogen 52 and a Nordhavn 51 - both new. Used is not off the table either, but my timing is ~ 2 years out, and never know what will be on the used market and at what price - but both KK and N say they are increasing prices significantly for new vessels in the coming years.
My intention is blue water cruising, crossing oceans at times,and I need a solid vessel with CE-A and ABYC standards that will be safe and comfortable for blue water, coastal, great loop, canals of Europe/Canada/US, etc.
The KK52 is hands is down the more robust and more comfortable vessel, but either would work. Both vessels are sub 5' draft and can squeeze under a 19' bridge. Both are twin engine and can sport two generators, with fuel, storage for stores, water/water maker, and other necessities to go the distance. Both are high quality manufacturers with a substantial pedigree and many yachts produced. Features, amenities, electronics, are very similar, and differences can be accommodated in many instances. However, the KK52 is bigger and has more livable/comfort features (love the office), hallway, portugeuse bridge, wing stations, front deck, back deck, boat deck, BBQ, hard top... N51 is sleek and modern (a look I find I really enjoy), larger engines, probably slightly higher hull speed due to hull shape/tuning (maybe .5-1 knot difference at the top end - yet to be verified), is built in Turkey, offering a Turkish delivery option with direct access to the Med, and into Europe. N51 costs $400k less, if similarly spec'd using after sale vendors to add items like stern thruster, more electonics etc. N51 is a production yacht, not a semi custom yacht like the KK52. It's supposed to be better priced as a result, but I find I have a list of add-ons that would have to be installed post delivery.
I have read posts, on this site and others, that call into question KK's bluewater ocean crossing capability, and with direct remarks saying to get a Nordhavn for that use. Leaves me feeling uneasy about a KK52 for my intended purposes.
I'd appreciate a better understanding why Nordhavn is deemed more appropriate for crossing oceans than say a KK52. Also, how their big ocean handling, roll stability, and such would differ.
Anyone familiar with the KK52 and N51 designs, I'd love to hear your thoughts as well. I have limited time now to make a decision. Much Appreciated.
- Brian
New member and first post.
I find myself in the odd position of having LOIs (letter of intent), on both a Kadey-Krogen 52 and a Nordhavn 51 - both new. Used is not off the table either, but my timing is ~ 2 years out, and never know what will be on the used market and at what price - but both KK and N say they are increasing prices significantly for new vessels in the coming years.
My intention is blue water cruising, crossing oceans at times,and I need a solid vessel with CE-A and ABYC standards that will be safe and comfortable for blue water, coastal, great loop, canals of Europe/Canada/US, etc.
The KK52 is hands is down the more robust and more comfortable vessel, but either would work. Both vessels are sub 5' draft and can squeeze under a 19' bridge. Both are twin engine and can sport two generators, with fuel, storage for stores, water/water maker, and other necessities to go the distance. Both are high quality manufacturers with a substantial pedigree and many yachts produced. Features, amenities, electronics, are very similar, and differences can be accommodated in many instances. However, the KK52 is bigger and has more livable/comfort features (love the office), hallway, portugeuse bridge, wing stations, front deck, back deck, boat deck, BBQ, hard top... N51 is sleek and modern (a look I find I really enjoy), larger engines, probably slightly higher hull speed due to hull shape/tuning (maybe .5-1 knot difference at the top end - yet to be verified), is built in Turkey, offering a Turkish delivery option with direct access to the Med, and into Europe. N51 costs $400k less, if similarly spec'd using after sale vendors to add items like stern thruster, more electonics etc. N51 is a production yacht, not a semi custom yacht like the KK52. It's supposed to be better priced as a result, but I find I have a list of add-ons that would have to be installed post delivery.
I have read posts, on this site and others, that call into question KK's bluewater ocean crossing capability, and with direct remarks saying to get a Nordhavn for that use. Leaves me feeling uneasy about a KK52 for my intended purposes.
I'd appreciate a better understanding why Nordhavn is deemed more appropriate for crossing oceans than say a KK52. Also, how their big ocean handling, roll stability, and such would differ.
Anyone familiar with the KK52 and N51 designs, I'd love to hear your thoughts as well. I have limited time now to make a decision. Much Appreciated.
- Brian
You'll do fine no matter your decision.
