ranger58sb
Guru
Want to blame some one - blame the guy who give that captain wrong information's.
How do you know the captain was given wrong information?
-Chris
Want to blame some one - blame the guy who give that captain wrong information's.
Do you really believe that the captain deliberately took that ship into path of that storm?. No job is worth a life and he knew that. Accusing that captain of risking life of his crew - under pressure from that company - is sick.How do you know the captain was given wrong information?
-Chris
Do you really believe that the captain deliberately took that ship into path of that storm?. No job is worth a life and he knew that. Accusing that captain of risking life of his crew - under pressure from that company - is sick.
Greetings,
Mr. n. Re-read post #90 until you actually understand what Mr. SD86 is saying. Not unlike a LOT of jobs I'm aware of. What the boss says, the boss gets. If not from you, from your replacement.
Do you really believe that the captain deliberately took that ship into path of that storm?. No job is worth a life and he knew that. Accusing that captain of risking life of his crew - under pressure from that company - is sick.
Fwiw, IMHO the NTSB report will likely center around hull age, maintenance and improper oversight (inspection) from class societies. But who am I? Nobody.
Ever know a captain and a cruise director of a cruise ship?SD,
The Captain is in charge. The fraternity will never, ever support changing that basic law of the sea...nor should they. You are strongly inferring that this Captain was a company patsy. I believe that is way out of line.
Your virulent anti-management bias and obvious quest to find someone in the company to blame is clouding your thought process. Just because people want to know doesn't mean there is a need for them to know. I want to know a lot of things, but that doesn't give me the right to squander taxpayer funds to satisfy my personal interest.
You should read the quote from TOTE a few days after the incident:The Captain is in charge. The fraternity will never, ever support changing that basic law of the sea...nor should they. You are strongly inferring that this Captain was a company patsy. I believe that is way out of line.
As is your assertion that pressure is not brought, and that corners are/were not cut in the ordinary operation of business. BTW, which law firm do you represent???Your virulent anti-management bias and obvious quest to find someone in the company to blame is clouding your thought process.
"Investigators from the NTSB and the U.S. Coast Guard, and engineers from the U.S. Navy and Phoenix International, the operator of CURV-21, will be aboard USNS Apache when it departs in early July for the accident site near the Bahamas."Sooo, have they retrieved the VDR?? Still working on getting it?
The company's press office was indeed mixed up about who is in charge. That little phrase is the sort of red herring that you conspiracy types like to glom onto.
The predicted path of the storm tells the story and explains why the Captain elected to take the windward side. Taken in retrospect...a string of bad decisions, no question. He will be taken to task in a big way. So will many others. That does not mean the Captain was pressured by the company in any way. Pure conjecture on your part.
People like you will take every little action by every member of the crew to second guess and twist things to meet your agenda. That father knows there's a feeding frenzy waiting to tear into his son's legacy.
One more time, nobody is suggesting that an investigation not be pursued. The point under discussion is very specific. Exactly what benefit could come from the tapes, and is it worth the expense of a major recovery effort. Knowing what they had in hand, the NTSB initially decided that it wouldn't be worth the effort/cost. Something made them change their mind....that would be pressure from somewhere...likely liability lawyers, politicians and the media. So far no one here has explained how anything they could personally dream up about possible information on either the voice or data tape could impact the future safety of the shipping industry. Lot's of "mights" and we don't knows, and maybes, but not one plausible example.
In any case the (wrong) decision has been made. I've just sent letters to my Congressman, Senator, the GAO, and Sixty Minutes asking them to take a close look behind the scenes at what's driving the relaunch of this effort. What made the NTSB change their mind.
There is no.speculation, the office in so many words said sail or pack your bags. You don't have to believe it, but I live it.
What law firm do you work for by the way?