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Benthic2 said:
If you don't plan on going ashore in Canada, Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to Bar Harbor, Maine is 3200 miles AS THE CROW FLIES.
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Thanks but we plan on going by boat, not plane. And ive never heard anybody, ever , say that the NWPassage ends in Maine. Anybody else?
 
Instead of one end being Bar Harbor Maine...heres what one site says...."The Northwest Passage spans roughly 900 miles from the North Atlantic north of Canada's Baffin Island in the east to the Beaufort Sea north of the U.S. state of Alaska in the west. It's located entirely within the Arctic Circle, less than 1,200 miles from the North [JR1] ."
 
Wasnt weird considering many of us are thinking reliable departure and arrival spots for fuel and provisioning, maybe clearing customs (not sure what that drill entails). Not just some "named" passage....some "practical " distance.

On the map I posted,, departure was from an area of Greenland departure ports and arrival in the first Alaskan civilization I know of (due to the no Canadian stop concept). Again, the way I view a voyage not a distance that is great for Wikipedia, but pretty useless in voyage planning.
 
psneeld said:
Wasnt weird considering many of us are thinking reliable departure and arrival spots for fuel and provisioning, maybe clearing customs (not sure what that drill entails). Not just some "named" passage....some "practical " distance.

On the map I posted,, departure was from an area of Greenland departure ports and arrival in the first Alaskan civilization I know of (due to the no Canadian stop concept). Again, the way I view a voyage not a distance that is great for Wikipedia, but pretty useless in voyage planning.
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There are fuling stops waaaaaaay north of Maine.
 
LOL, this has been a fun thread (even learned a few things from the TF 'old-timers'!) but I don't believe for a minute the OP's plans are real. :D

I'm waiting to see what ridiculous things get posted next! :popcorn:
Jim
 
Only a couple in Greenland if not stopping in Canada.

That's why I used a point off Greenland..... there may be ones further north than where I posted, don't know if they sell fuel because of the remoteness and allocate for other priorities.
 
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JLD said:
LOL, this has been a fun thread (even learned a few things from the TF 'old-timers'!) but I don't believe for a minute the OP's plans are real. :D

I'm waiting to see what ridiculous things get posted next! :popcorn:
Jim
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You mean you doubt my comment that you can get diesel north of Maine?
 
David Ess said:
You mean you doubt my comment that you can get diesel north of Maine?
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I have no idea where to get fuel north of Maine.

This is a great forum to get advice, but you don't seem to take heed to any of it.

Quite frankly, I don't believe any of your posts. Even your profile doesn't make sense. You claim to be from Niagara Falls, Ontario with a DOMINICAN REPUBLIC home country. Yet, in your posts you seem to not have respect for the Canadian authorities or the native peoples. So, who are you really?

Whatever, it is entertaining reading on a crappy day like today when I'm stuck in the house. :popcorn:
Jim
 
—widely used in Alaska—
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With all deference to the Encyclopedia Britannica, in 20 years of Alaska living, and several visits before and since, including ten years of working for the state government, I can't recall anyone using the term "Eskimo", except perhaps for some ill-informed Gussuk from "Outside", who would have been soon corrected.


Native Alaskan is the common generic term, and knowledgeable Alaskans will use the ethno-geographic specific, such as Aleut, Tlingit, Inupiat, etc.


...and Inuit is a Canadian term.
 
David Ess, where will you be starting your voyage from and what boat do you own? Will this be this your vessel for your "North West" passage?
 
David Ess said:
Thanks but we plan on going by boat, not plane. And ive never heard anybody, ever , say that the NWPassage ends in Maine. Anybody else?
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My point, which anyone who was trying to learn anything would have picked up on, is that your 900 mile idea and not stopping in Canada is ridiculous. Even if you go from the Alaska/Canada border to the closest spot in Greenland, its 2300 miles as the crow flies. ( ie: it is A LOT longer by boat )
 
David Ess said:
Instead of one end being Bar Harbor Maine...heres what one site says...."The Northwest Passage spans roughly 900 miles from the North Atlantic north of Canada's Baffin Island in the east to the Beaufort Sea north of the U.S. state of Alaska in the west. It's located entirely within the Arctic Circle, less than 1,200 miles from the North [JR1] ."
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The north end of Baffin Island is 1800 miles from Greenland's closest point, and 1500 miles from the Alaska border.

Here's a quote from an article on Geography.com:

In 1957, three United States Coast Guard Cutters - Storis, Bramble, and SPAR - became the first ships to cross the Northwest Passage along a deep draft route. They covered the 4,500 miles of semi-charted water in 64 days.

source: https://geology.com/articles/northwest-passage.shtml
 
Sure about that Baffin Isl to Greenland distance....my guess would be a couple hundred to 500 depending where to where?
 
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Benthic2 said:
The north end of Baffin Island is 1800 miles from Greenland's closest point, and 1500 miles from the Alaska border.

Here's a quote from an article on Geography.com:

In 1957, three United States Coast Guard Cutters - Storis, Bramble, and SPAR - became the first ships to cross the Northwest Passage along a deep draft route. They covered the 4,500 miles of semi-charted water in 64 days.

source: https://geology.com/articles/northwest-passage.shtml
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The article doestn say which two points theyre talking about.
And your wrong about from baffin to greenkand too.
Who has their chartplotter handy?
 
Frosty said:
Attempt #627 Maybe that's the magic number?
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Answer #6467 that you missed. From other research and info from even this thread, i had said we'll likely call it off since canada wil try to shake us down .
 
AlaskaProf said:
With all deference to the Encyclopedia Britannica, in 20 years of Alaska living, and several visits before and since, including ten years of working for the state government....do dah do dah
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Speaking of names we use, let's see if I can take this sideways for a bit.

AK Prof, settle a debate for me. Is the most common AK term, "brown" or "grizzly" and do you know the ratio of the two?

Murray, how about up your way, same question.
 
JLD said:
I have no idea where to get fuel north of Maine.

This is a great forum to get advice, but you don't seem to take heed to any of it.

Quite frankly, I don't believe any of your posts. Even your profile doesn't make sense. You claim to be from Niagara Falls, Ontario with a DOMINICAN REPUBLIC home country. Yet, in your posts you seem to not have respect for the Canadian authorities or the native peoples. So, who are you really?

Whatever, it is entertaining reading on a crappy day like today when I'm stuck in the house. :popcorn:
Jim
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Got it, you dont know that you can get fuel north of Maine, nor believe me when I tell you that you can.
Does anybody else know that you can? Surely im not the only one in this group who does.
 
AlaskaProf said:
With all deference to the Encyclopedia Britannica, in 20 years of Alaska living, and several visits before and since, including ten years of working for the state government, I can't recall anyone using the term "Eskimo", except perhaps for some ill-informed Gussuk from "Outside", who would have been soon corrected.


Native Alaskan is the common generic term, and knowledgeable Alaskans will use the ethno-geographic specific, such as Aleut, Tlingit, Inupiat, etc.


...and Inuit is a Canadian term.
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It could be that as a prof, youre likely a left wing 'woke' one, so never talk to normal people.
 
David Ess said:
Im not handy to my future boat, right.
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Oh I see. I thought maybe you had a starter boat now. But no problem going right to the high latitudes. Attitude is everything :)

I guess your iPad must be on the fritz too, darn the luck.
 
Frosty said:
Oh I see. I thought maybe you had a starter boat now. But no problem going right to the high latitudes. Attitude is everything :)

I guess your iPad must be on the fritz too, darn the luck.
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Instead of making false assumptions like that about me, another idea would be to research it yourself.
 
Greetings,
Mr. F. "Attitude is everything..." So is altitude...


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