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03-06-2021, 01:25 AM
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City: Mediterranean
Vessel Name: Rozi
Vessel Model: Jeanneau
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 23
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Are you using a Bridle with your anchoring setup?
Are you using Snubber, Bridle, or nothing?
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03-06-2021, 02:20 AM
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City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 3,021
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Unless there's a surge or in the open ocean, nothing.
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03-06-2021, 05:02 AM
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City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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Always a snubber
Never know what'll happen at 2am and don't want to he expensive windlass taking that load
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03-06-2021, 06:01 AM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,937
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A snubber is quick and easy to deploy and take the load off the windlass, but I usually don't need it as I have a chain/nylon rode and rarely are in "all-chain" mode.
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03-06-2021, 06:57 AM
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Guru
City: Newport, R.I.
Vessel Name: Hippocampus
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,871
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Always a snubber. In fact two to create redundancy and a bridle. Helps decreasing sailing at anchor which I find annoying. Often in areas where theres brief squalls and need my beauty sleep. Also use the mantus chain hook. Has never fallen off but is easier than a truckers hitch. Your set up should be as strong as your chain.
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03-06-2021, 06:57 AM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backinblue
A snubber is quick and easy to deploy and take the load off the windlass, but I usually don't need it as I have a chain/nylon rode and rarely are in "all-chain" mode.
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You should still cleat it off though.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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03-06-2021, 06:58 AM
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Guru
City: Edgewater, MD
Vessel Name: Catalina Jack
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,585
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Bridle. I love it when I back down to set the anchor and I see the two legs of the bridle begin to become taught, and then the boat comes to a quick stop. Makes for peaceful sleeping.
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03-06-2021, 07:06 AM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
You should still cleat it off though.
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Of course, I thought that was a given. Whether a snubber or the nylon rode, it cleated so there is no load on the windlass.
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03-06-2021, 07:14 AM
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City: Gulf Breeze, FL
Vessel Name: Cynful Lady
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 42 Sedan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 2
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Bridle is the way to go. We have anchored with and without the bridle and the
noise of the chain shift while trying to sleep is a pain. Taking the strain off the windlass
is a big help not to mention peace of mind. The Mantus connector is easy to attach and
release.
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03-06-2021, 07:15 AM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,538
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If I'm in deep enough water to have some of the nylon portion of my rode out, I just cleat it off. If I'm on just chain, it's usually a single snubber and also cleat off the chain as a backup.
I do need to experiment with bridles a bit more, but from the little bit I tried, they don't make my boat sit any better, as my bow cleats are fairly close together.
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03-06-2021, 07:31 AM
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Guru
City: Looking
Vessel Name: --
Vessel Model: Between boats
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,190
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All-chain rode.. Always a snubber at least. Bridle if conditions warrant.
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03-06-2021, 08:06 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boathealer
All-chain rode.. Always a snubber at least. Bridle if conditions warrant.
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Almost always use a single, light weight, single snubber because 90 percent of the time thats all that's needed. If weather changes, I can add or change to what " might" be needed.
But that's me and my current boat, others may need something different. Experimentation results in knowing rather than taking possibly advice that may not work for you.
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03-06-2021, 08:06 AM
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Guru
City: Groton, CT
Vessel Name: Datenight
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,103
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Always use a bridle. It's easy to use and gives peace of mind not to mention taking stress off the windlass. I made this up when bring the boat home from Philadelphia. On the winter project list is splicing in stainless steel thimbles to eliminate chafe on the shackle.
I bought the chain hook in France while sailing with my cousin. Unlike most things marine it was a bargain. The cost was less than $25.00 US.
Like Hippocampus I have never had an issue with it slipping off.
Rob
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03-06-2021, 08:24 AM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Datenight
Always use a bridle. It's easy to use and gives peace of mind not to mention taking stress off the windlass. I made this up when bring the boat home from Philadelphia. On the winter project list is splicing in stainless steel thimbles to eliminate chafe on the shackle.
I bought the chain hook in France while sailing with my cousin. Unlike most things marine it was a bargain. The cost was less than $25.00 US.
Like Hippocampus I have never had an issue with it slipping off.
Rob
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I would definitely add thimbles. Even if not spliced, they should work. My permanent dock lines are double braid, tied not spliced. They have thimbles that attach to shackles to eyes and rings on the dock and pilings. After a few seasons and 1 (not too strong) hurricane, they seem to be holding up well.
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03-06-2021, 08:35 AM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Never used one though I had it aboard. Chain is its own snubber, at least until the catenary is pulled out.
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03-06-2021, 08:39 AM
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City: Looking
Vessel Name: --
Vessel Model: Between boats
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Never used one though I had it aboard. Chain is its own snubber, at least until the catenary is pulled out.
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Sort of. We usually anchor in 6-7ft of water. Not a lot of catenary weight there.
Not to mention off-loading the windlass gearbox (unless a chain grabber/stop is available).
Snubber. Always. For us.
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03-06-2021, 08:40 AM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Never used one though I had it aboard. Chain is its own snubber, at least until the catenary is pulled out.
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True if it's a calm night, but that the problem with all chain. During a decent blow, the chain can become bar tight. That's no the time to want to add a snubber or bridle. Also, that condition not only puts stress on your windlass, but also can lessen the effectiveness or your anchor. I have never had an all-chain rode. I know it has some advantages but so does the stretchiness of nylon.
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03-06-2021, 08:42 AM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Never used one though I had it aboard. Chain is its own snubber, at least until the catenary is pulled out.
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In shallow water you'll never have much useful catenary. But with heavier chain on a larger boat and deep water, the story is very different. That's why you don't see snubbers on ships. They end up with enough catenary combined with the heavier ship having much less reaction (and therefore less load spikes on the rode) from wind gusts and waves, so it would take a whole heck of a lot for them to actually pull the chain tight. With most of our boats, unless in very deep water with 300+ feet of chain out, it doesn't take as much as you'd think to pull chain tight enough that there's no useful shock absorption left.
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03-06-2021, 08:56 AM
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#19
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
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Ships also have live watches and running engines when winds pipe up.
In many US anchorages you hear the USCG issue a broadcast requiring them to do so.
Ships and anchoring..... I have always read and thought their anchoring and small boat anchoring have almost as many differences than similarities.
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03-06-2021, 09:04 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: Alzero
Vessel Model: Hatteras 63' CPMY
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,548
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I never had a need for a bridle. I use all chain rode with 5:1 scope. Even in 60mph gusts we do not jerk up against the chain. With a bridle we sail around at anchor much more than without one. I always secure the chain with the stopper and relax tension on the windlass.
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