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Old 01-07-2022, 05:22 PM   #1
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I am considering adding a Garmin On Deck remote monitoring system to our 2020 American Tug 395 with Garmin chart plotters. Looking for advice and comments on monitoring systems.We will be leaving the boat unattended at marinas from time to time.
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We are extremely happy with our Siren Marine system. Monitors everything we could ever want and integrates into the NMEA 2000 network for engine data.

We are all Garmin on our boat, but decided the On Deck was not as feature rich as Siren.
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Another strong recommendation for Siren. Outstanding service, an extremely well thought out design, and reasonably priced monitoring / notifications made my choice that much better after the sale.

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Yes, to the 2 above.
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I'm just curious, what will you be monitoring on your boat and why?
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I'm just curious, what will you be monitoring on your boat and why?
When my boat is on the hard, winter time. I want to know that the boat is secure. Break-ins at boat yards do happen. At the slip I am not worried, but its nice to know. Since the house and starting batteries are very heavy, they stay in the boat all winter. With Siren Pro I know the boats battery voltages and if the solar system is charging.

I have a friend that went to FL with his boat and just install a Siren Pro 3. Him and his wife went for a walk on the beach. He received an alert on his phone that the high water alarm went off. He left his A.C. running and the sump pump stopped working. He was just gone for 2 hours and if not for Siren Pro he would not have known.
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Thanks.

What, exactly does the system monitor?

For a boat on the hard, a home security system like Simply Safe would monitor for break ins. They have smoke detectors also and may have temperature alarms and such. And cameras are available.

It's not a "marine" system as such, but the components are just a couple hundred dollars and monitoring is $15 per month.

I have this in my home. It does the same thing as ADT which was $50 per month when I dropped it.
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Its easier to show then tell

Here is our dashboard off what we monitor.

Bilge Pumps, Temps, Voltages, Doors

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OK, that's impressive. What is the approximate cost initially and per month?
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Siren offers 3 different Plans.

Annual - 12 months at $180
Seasonal - April 1 - October 31 at $125
Month to Month at $17.97

We monitor the boat 24/7, 365 whether it is in the water or on the hard.

For total system cost, we bought at the boat show so got a bit of a discount.

I would say the total system cost for us all in was about $2k.

What sets Siren apart is their customer service and support. They are quick to respond to any questions, and if you have a large complex installation like ours they dont rest until everything is working perfectly!
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We also monitor our electrical system that is comprised of Victron equipment. There is some duplication of data which is nice to compare both systems to.

The boat is currently on the hard, shrink wrapped and still keeping the batteries fully charged via solar with NO shore power connected.

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One of the nice features is the ability to turn 4 things on and off remotely. I only use one of these. If you steal my boat, you're probably not going to be happy when I turn the engine off.

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One of the nice features is the ability to turn 4 things on and off remotely. I only use one of these. If you steal my boat, you're probably not going to be happy when I turn the engine off.

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Better than that would be a way to keep them from starting the engine in the first place. You could use a hidden toggle switch for $2.98.

These systems do seem nice, but probably more than I need. Like I posted, I have AIS so I know where it is as long as I have a computer or phone.

I installed a smart thermostat that's Internet compatible so I know the temperature and I can turn the heat or AC on and off remotely. There's no monthly charge for that (other than the charge for the hot spot that I already had for Internet access).

I do have friends at the marina who will notify me if anything external sees out of place. We had a really bad windstorm last week and a friend called me to say my dinghy was loose on the bow (he tied it up) and that my canvas was flapping. I drove to the marina and found that the wind had actually separated the bimini frame.
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Better than that would be a way to keep them from starting the engine in the first place. You could use a hidden toggle switch for $2.98.
This is true, but I'd rather not have them trash the boat to teach me a lesson or release it to go through a mooring field. I see it as the "On Star" of boating. It cost under $20 to add, and if I ever get to use it, priceless!

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The Victron system is not as comprehensive as the Siren, but a lot less money, and no ongoing subscription. It is possible to turn on and off a few select things with the Victron.
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Another option for those that don't want to spend a ton of money. Check out MySpool.com. Simple little device, ~$100. Monitors AC power, temp, humidity, water float switch, continuity sensor. You receive the alerts via SMS/email or both. No monthly/subscription cost either...

I wanted something simple that would let me know if/when the shorepower was turned off (breaker or loss of power). For $100 this little thing is pretty awesome!
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Another option for those that don't want to spend a ton of money. Check out MySpool.com. Simple little device, ~$100. Monitors AC power, temp, humidity, water float switch, continuity sensor. You receive the alerts via SMS/email or both. No monthly/subscription cost either...



I wanted something simple that would let me know if/when the shorepower was turned off (breaker or loss of power). For $100 this little thing is pretty awesome!

Does this system require WiFi to work?I have no WiFi at my current dock.
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It does. Either you provide or if a signal from the dock/marina is available. If you have a hot spot for the boat, you could use that.

Cheap option would be to by a prepaid hotspot and use that. lol, $50 data plan for this thing would prob last you YEARS since it would just be sending an SMS msg...
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Where would I get a prepaid hotspot? Iím not familiar.

Something like this ?

https://www.verizon.com/internet-dev...g-mhs-prepaid/
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you could check with your current carrier to see what they have. Some carriers (though not always listed) have an option to buy the SIM card and then you ONLY get charged for what you use. Or they might have an option to just add a super cheap data plan, same type that people use for security cam SIMs.
The trick for the prepaid is to make sure it's actually a pay-as-you-USE. Not $50 for 50g but you have to use it in 30-60 days...
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