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11-16-2022, 11:21 AM
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Orcas sink yacht
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11-16-2022, 12:21 PM
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Researchers believe that the attacks are being carried out by just a few young male orcas and could simply be another temporary cultural fad. Other examples of temporary cultural fads in teenage orcas include playing with prawn and crab traps and wearing dead fish on their heads as hats.
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A FAD you say.
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11-16-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick14
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This is not the first time I hear this. My neighbor in the marina in Corfu (Greece) told me the same story. He is a captain on a 60' catamaran and both his rudders were taken off by orca's close to Gibraltar Strait.
He managed to bring the boat into port and new rudders had to be installed. According to him it happens a lot in that area.
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11-16-2022, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mambo42
This is not the first time I hear this. My neighbor in the marina in Corfu (Greece) told me the same story. He is a captain on a 60' catamaran and both his rudders were taken off by orca's close to Gibraltar Strait.
He managed to bring the boat into port and new rudders had to be installed. According to him it happens a lot in that area.
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I used to live in the UK where close to my village there was a town called Coggeshall, a group of teenagers in the town called themselves the Coggeshall basta**ds and harried motorists and pedestrians on their motorcycles.
This is typical teenage behavior from an evolved species. Their Moms would be horrified!
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11-16-2022, 03:10 PM
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Just another good reason to boat on the Great Lakes…
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11-16-2022, 03:42 PM
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They only attack sailboats. Hmmmmmm...I wonder....
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11-16-2022, 04:15 PM
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I was wondering about this as well. Do the sailboats look/mimic a whale and they are practicing their techniques?
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11-16-2022, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanT
This is typical teenage behavior from an evolved species. Their Moms would be horrified!
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This made me laugh at first, but then I thought about it more. Anthropomorphism or not, it might be the best explanation yet!
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11-16-2022, 04:50 PM
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Greetings,
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11-16-2022, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Comodave
Just another good reason to boat on the Great Lakes…
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Or the Missouri River...
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11-17-2022, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kthoennes
Or the Missouri River...
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Is there much left of it now? I read that the Mississippi is pretty low.
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11-17-2022, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RT Firefly
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11-17-2022, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
Is there much left of it now? I read that the Mississippi is pretty low.
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I was thinking the same. I read the other day that the Army Corp of Engineers is doing some type of "emergency" or in government terms "expansive" dredging to keep boat traffic flowing.
Also, like where is the water going???
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11-17-2022, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapodisn
I was thinking the same. I read the other day that the Army Corp of Engineers is doing some type of "emergency" or in government terms "expansive" dredging to keep boat traffic flowing.
Also, like where is the water going???
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The long-term drought reduces the water volume feeding into the river thus
reducing that level.
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11-17-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac2
They only attack sailboats. Hmmmmmm...I wonder....
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I think they munched a trawler or two IIRC so don't feel so safe.
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11-17-2022, 06:02 PM
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No, we're generally still okay, just about the entire course, although the basin or surrounding area has some badly dry areas. I'm kind of surprised though, especially since the Lewis & Clark water project sucks about 24 million gallons per day out of the river.
https://riverweather.com/riverstages/missouri/
But the forecast and surrounding area is not looking good:
https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/new...uri-river-dams
Of course we're just above the first dam so our water level is artificially maintained anyway, and our compound (Gavins Pt, Lewis & Clark) is actually up, but the river level is generally "normal" all the way to Kansas City. I believe it's the Mississippi where barges are running aground.
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11-17-2022, 11:42 PM
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When I was on a Uchuck trip in Nootka Sound, I watched Luna nearly rip the rudder off of an old Grampian or Columbia live aboard sailboat (I just remember it was butt ugly) tied up at a logging camp. It liked to spin the spade rudder around until the tiller was whacking the backstay.
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11-18-2022, 12:01 PM
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Hey NS. Good to see you. As in I like you’re new avatar.
My trip to Powell River didn’t do as good …. Thanks.
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11-18-2022, 06:23 PM
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While I can see the teenage high jinx being a reasonable theory, but perhaps it could be as simple as mistaken identity.
An adult male humpback is about 55’ and a female, 60’.
A 40’ sail boat could be misjudged as a sub adult humpback on its side; the deep keel resembling a pectoral fin and the rudder mimicking the tail, swinging back and forth.
When killer whales attack larger whales, they often go for the tail to immobilize it. This picture is a perfect example; Mexican humpback Valiant which is known to have been attacked by killer whales as a juvenile. There are others.
As an adult, Valiant is known to be aggressive with killer whales and has been seen to protect seals and sea lions from these hungry predators.
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11-18-2022, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
When I was on a Uchuck trip in Nootka Sound, I watched Luna nearly rip the rudder off of an old Grampian or Columbia live aboard sailboat (I just remember it was butt ugly) tied up at a logging camp. It liked to spin the spade rudder around until the tiller was whacking the backstay.
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Columbia 26 for sure. Grampian rudder wouldn't spin around like that on the Columbia (My Dad had one that he bought new when the Clark Simpkins car dealership on Kingsway was selling them) I used to go out on it and remember spinning the rudder around. I agree butt ugly. No inside sleeping for anyone 6' or over, so I would put the companionway boards across the cockpit to make an almost double size bed. Sailed well though.
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