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If I remember Ellemaid was heavier ( by far ) than she must be accord ing.pl with the drawing.
On the link above the DD have lot (too much ?) weight on the uppercut part. I saw some DD long time ago in Clearwater Bay Marina HK.
Too much 'angle' for my taste. But the arrangement for à couplé will be suffisent.
I saw some picture of the steel built...they welding 'black' L
stiffener...but after that you can't make à correct sandblasting behin.Our first steel boat was made like that in Germany ...after 18 year it was already à big problem
 
@Long-cours, I have read that comment frequently about steel construction. Use flat bar longitudinal instead of angles or tees, because of trapping moisture and the impossible ability to sandblast sufficiently.
 
The xpomise between flat and T could be the French name is "plat à boudin"
 

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That's called Holland profile.

Mvg,

Pascal.
 
That is a cute boat. Interesting that they decided to carvel plank instead of cold molded (laminated ply with fiberglass). Since it's Doug fir, pickling in salt water instead of a Great Lake would be preferred.


IMO it's been for sale for awhile because the price is too high. That's why they call it "the bottom line."


Does this suggest it's a home-built boat? DDs are just plans, right? I know there is an outfit is HK (or near) who builds them in steel, but anyone could build from any material, right?
 
Does this suggest it's a home-built boat? DDs are just plans, right? I know there is an outfit is HK (or near) who builds them in steel, but anyone could build from any material, right?
What I recall from an earlier listing for this boat is that it was home-built by a
skilled woodworker.
 
What I recall from an earlier listing for this boat is that it was home-built by a
skilled woodworker.

I think this boat was built by Wayne Shibley Wood boats in Chicago. I think the boat your referring to was built in Texas. The builder was a retired engineer, If I remember correctly. It was an impressive build.
 
Does this suggest it's a home-built boat? DDs are just plans, right? I know there is an outfit is HK (or near) who builds them in steel, but anyone could build from any material, right?

George Buehler was a designer, so you're correct that DDs are just plans. Built home made, professionally, etc. His designs were in wood and steel. Probably adaptable to aluminum, although I recall Idlewild was specifically in AL because it was a specialized design for the NW Passage.
 
I think this boat was built by Wayne Shibley Wood boats in Chicago. I think the boat your referring to was built in Texas. The builder was a retired engineer, If I remember correctly. It was an impressive build.
Thanks, that aligns with the boat I was thinking of.
 
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2013-diesel-duck-40-5950323/

I'm in the minority, probably, but the DD in wood is my preference. If it has been done properly, it will be quieter and warmer, and more easily driven. When I look at boats these days, at my age, I only want one that will last 10 years. I am certain that this one would. And look at the price!

But I am reminded of Hippocampus's remarks about layout: my partner does not like the galley-down design and the 'cramped' feeling of the relatively narrow beam. I have studied George B.'s books a number of times, and I am in agreement with his design philosophy, overall. The pertinent question here is, though, in a cruising year, how long do you spend crossing oceans?
 
Beautiful but I’m glad I don’t own it. Butterfly hatches in wood are a bear to maintain and very prone to leak. Wood on steel tends to be difficult and this one has a lot of brightwork. Lovely amount of glass for the saloons but she’d be a warm boat from passive solar heating and cold with heat loss from all that glass in cold regions. . Especially as natural ventilation for those spaces seems limited. A lovely boat for temperate climes but not for high lat nor the tropics. Also would be concerned about her for voyaging.
 
If I remember Ellemaid was heavier ( by far ) than she must be accord ing.pl with the drawing.
On the link above the DD have lot (too much ?) weight on the uppercut part. I saw some DD long time ago in Clearwater Bay Marina HK.
Too much 'angle' for my taste. But the arrangement for à couplé will be suffisent.
I saw some picture of the steel built...they welding 'black' L
stiffener...but after that you can't make à correct sandblasting behin.Our first steel boat was made like that in Germany ...after 18 year it was already à big problem

The Seahorse Marine Diesel Ducks I looked at in China had flat bar for the longitudinal structure. There were T shapes used on Frames.

With steel the big issue is the proper blasting of the metal to white or near white and then getting the coating applied quickly and in the correct humidity and temperature. Figured one just has to be there to supervise and make sure it is done correctly. What I saw looked ok but it is hard to really see after the interior is in place.

On one DD build, I would have asked for more paint and there was some sloppy metal work done in an out of the way place. Nothing wrong strength wise just sloppy. Basically a 90 degree cut instead of a 45ish degree.

Regarding the DD lay out, the 462s have a pilot house and sedan version. If one wants a galley up, then go with the sedan. If galley down is wanted, then go with the pilot house. The stability of the sedan version is not as good as the pilot house. We thought the DD 462's had a pretty good layout.

Personally, I don't get galley up. Seem to be a waste of space in a part of the boat that is prime for viewing, and to maintain the view, one looses galley storage space. I do the cooking and when I am preparing a meal, I am not looking out a window. :D

Talking with George and reading his books, I don't think he liked designing interiors and he just drew up a design to show something. He said the interior is up to the builder/owner. We have looked at quite a few boats, and I really wonder why people have certain designs. Obviously, they wanted what was built but I really question some of the designs I have seen.

I was drawing up a plan based on one of the George's designs that I really liked and would have wanted done in AL. Started talking with some builders but then George had a heart attack and died so we moved on to other ideas.

He was an interesting guy that is for sure and glad we spent some time with him. :D We paid for his dinner at a Japanese restaurant which was the first time he had eaten Japanese food. He sure did not want to eat, as he said, fish bait, aka sushi :rofl:, so we helped him picked a cooked dish that he did enjoy.
 
On galley up vs. galley down—as another owner who does the cooking, I like the open space of our galley, as it's part of the saloon, and we can talk this way. We either eat on the back deck (same level) or more often in the saloon on the 'settee-converted to lounge' arrangement that we prefer to a conventional table and bench arrangement (we are more comfortable sitting cross-legged, and we can both stretch our legs out if we want).

I'll head over to the Seahorse Marine site and look at the layouts of the 462s. I recall reading somewhere that George thought the sedan design was less ocean-worthy because of the window area, but might be wrong about this.

[later] Hmm. Seahorse Marine has a new site, and I cannot see where to compare the sedan and pilot house versions.

@dannc: loved the GB "fish bait" story—I can almost see it!
 
Posting this 2010 Integrity 350 because of the 8925 engine hours, unusual in a recreational boat.

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The engine hours are probably because it has been a bare boat charter vessel in the Whitsundays. Have a look at the second pic where you can see the registration number on the transom. In QLD rego's ending in Q are private and anything with a letter after the Q is commercial.

Was originally QC as in 'Queensland Commercial' but I guess they have run out of combinations are now using other letters. e.g. QF as in this case.
 
The engine hours are probably because it has been a bare boat charter vessel in the Whitsundays. Have a look at the second pic where you can see the registration number on the transom. In QLD rego's ending in Q are private and anything with a letter after the Q is commercial.

Was originally QC as in 'Queensland Commercial' but I guess they have run out of combinations are now using other letters. e.g. QF as in this case.

There are also 'warning' stickers all over the vessel. These are typical on bare boat charter vessels.

I also noticed the listed rego in the description is different than in the photos, so must not be in survey any longer.
 
The engine hours are probably because it has been a bare boat charter vessel in the Whitsundays. Have a look at the second pic where you can see the registration number on the transom. In QLD rego's ending in Q are private and anything with a letter after the Q is commercial.

Was originally QC as in 'Queensland Commercial' but I guess they have run out of combinations are now using other letters. e.g. QF as in this case.
That makes sense. It looks good for the hours run, a compliment to the builder and owner/ hire organization. Or perhaps just the detailer prepping it for sale.
Were you affected by cyclone Kirrily?
 
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Were you affected by cyclone Kirrily?

We were on stand-by for a significant rain event as the cyclone was supposed to move south after crossing the coast, but it didn't happen and the only rain we have had was today. But nothing of any concern.
 

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Shout out to this fine volunteer who although closed, allowed me to board and inspect this incredible vessel. They are doing an outstanding job, lots and lots of elbow grease. And to think that I am complaining about my varnish job....lol.
 

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We stayed in the Crown Towers, where we could see all of the festivities surrounding Australia Day. It's the large twisted cylindrical tower nearest the water. Stay there if you can, loved it. And by all means do the bridge walk, it was crazy. With proper safety equipment, you walk the underside, and then atop the outside of the bridge. Incredible view!

Crown Towers Sydney | Luxury Hotel in Barangaroo

 

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We traveled to Hamilton Island, and were supposed to go to Port Douglas, but with the possible cyclone, high tailed it back to Sydney. Will do Port Douglas another time...

https://www.hamiltonisland.com.au

I am always looking out for cool boats when we travel. I was surprised to see the Choey Lee 66, one of my favorite boats. Yes I am a sucker for a canoe stern for some reason. I remember when this came on the market, and it sold fairly fast. The captain said it was the last and perhaps the best one built of the 66. I think he said he has been captain for over 15 years on this one boat he likes it so much. He described the systems as being small ship like. And extremely fuel efficient.
 

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During this trip, we also did a Ponant Cruise around all of New Zealand, and was surprised to not see many boats cruising, I guess it must be the wrong time? I expected to see some Nordhavns and others like we did when we did Alaska with NW Explorations, but no.

I did see this boat. If I had a way, I'd love to cruise that area, and then bring her back to the US. I was told by the broker that this is indeed a Bristol condition boat. Should be stable, I think it has a nine foot draft? We have no idea what the economy will look like in a few years, but I wonder if you could cruise it there, then cruise it home and if inclined sell it for a good bit more then the purchase price? No worries about the $250,000 plus plus in the adventure portion. What a dream....

https://au.boats.com/power-boats/1994-delta-marine-63-rph-passagemaker-6917775/
 

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During this trip, we also did a Ponant Cruise around all of New Zealand, and was surprised to not see many boats cruising, I guess it must be the wrong time? I expected to see some Nordhavns and others like we did when we did Alaska with NW Explorations, but no.

I did see this boat. If I had a way, I'd love to cruise that area, and then bring her back to the US. I was told by the broker that this is indeed a Bristol condition boat. Should be stable, I think it has a nine foot draft? We have no idea what the economy will look like in a few years, but I wonder if you could cruise it there, then cruise it home and if inclined sell it for a good bit more then the purchase price? No worries about the $250,000 plus plus in the adventure portion. What a dream....

https://au.boats.com/power-boats/1994-delta-marine-63-rph-passagemaker-6917775/

Wow beautiful ship, I see a small and a large steering wheel in the wheelhouse, what is the reason for that?

Mvg,

Pascal.
 
Wow beautiful ship, I see a small and a large steering wheel in the wheelhouse, what is the reason for that?

Mvg,

Pascal.

Odd almost like a large trim wheel in a large vintage plane. I'll have to ask.
 

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