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Old 12-05-2021, 04:01 PM   #1
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Cruising Lake Champlain

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Will be cruising Lake Champlain this summer, most likely in June.


Looking for neat places to see, good anchorages and things I might want to avoid.



Heading up on the Hudson to get there. Looks like a pretty good hike up the Champlain river/canal..... anything exciting there?


Then heading up to Montreal..... if Canada open.



Thoughts?
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Old 12-05-2021, 04:08 PM   #2
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I was there this summer and can give you a good bit of information. Although, if it were me, I'd rather come back through Champlain in August as it and the water will be much warmer (surface temperatures in the low 80s).

I covered a good bit of the lake in 2 months.

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Old 12-05-2021, 05:52 PM   #3
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We are planning on moving our new to us boat to Lake Champlain via the Hudson and Champlain canal in May depending on lock schedules.
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Thats a great trip, you will enjoy it.
A couple stops that stick in my mind...
Champlain Canal
Waterford - busy but an interesting stop with boats coming & going on both Champlain & Erie
Fort Edward- good restaurant nearby... we judge many of our stops by the restaurants nearby.
Whitehall - good tie up at town wall w power and a good staging place for a day cruise to Lk Champlain

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Maritime museum on SE shore a worthwhile stop.
Burlington- a great stop with lots to offer, good public transport, restaurants, etc. Reservations for a slip essential and a mooring field close by.
Plattsburgh - several historic museums within walking distance. Town marina a good option & restaurants nearby.
Deep Bay - N of Plattsburg is a state park with many mooring cans Beach & places ashore for walks

Montreal - old Town marina is a great location but reservations recommended.
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We are planning on doing the Triangle Loop, leaving around June 20. Chesapeake Bay to Hudson River, NYS Canals to Lake Ontario, Kingston to Ottawa, Montreal and maybe Quebec and then back to Lake Champlain and home. Maybe we'll be bumping into you along the way!

BTW, if you come up the Chesapeake we should try and meet up somewhere.
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We are planning on doing the Triangle Loop, leaving around June 20. Chesapeake Bay to Hudson River, NYS Canals to Lake Ontario, Kingston to Ottawa, Montreal and maybe Quebec and then back to Lake Champlain and home. Maybe we'll be bumping into you along the way!

BTW, if you come up the Chesapeake we should try and meet up somewhere.
That sounds like a good trip. I will be taking the same path to Ottawa and then heading back down to do the Trent Severn and on to Lake Superior. Probably be about a month ahead of you.

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That sounds like a good trip. I will be taking the same path to Ottawa and then heading back down to do the Trent Severn and on to Lake Superior. Probably be about a month ahead of you.

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Give a wave to Rochester when you hit Lake Ontario!
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Give a wave to Rochester when you hit Lake Ontario!
Will do, but will probably pass by on the Erie canal East bound in mid September.

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We are planning on doing the Triangle Loop, leaving around June 20. Chesapeake Bay to Hudson River, NYS Canals to Lake Ontario, Kingston to Ottawa, Montreal and maybe Quebec and then back to Lake Champlain and home. Maybe we'll be bumping into you along the way!

BTW, if you come up the Chesapeake we should try and meet up somewhere.
If you purchase your Canadian Lock & mooring passes before end of March there is a significant discount.
Do a little exploring of 1,000 Is area before starting the Rideau. Antique Boat museum in Clayton is worth a full day. Bold & Singer Castles near Alex Bay interesting. Then take the northern channel back to Kingston before starting the Rideau.
If you want any sights, restaurant, lock or Anchorage info on Rideau PM me and I can elaborate.
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I live in Malletts Bay and cruise Champlain all summer. There's lots to do. PM me if interested in chatting. If you make it to Malletts Bay/Colchester or Burlington, let me know. I'd be happy to meet up and host for a drink or dinner.

On the cool side, I live on the northernmost part of Marble Island, so I see every boat that goes in and out of Inner Malletts Bay.

@O C Diver We met very briefly this summer I think. You were anchored over by the causeway in Malletts Bay. I stopped by to look at your beautiful boat in a little 13 whaler and we chatted briefly.
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A few other interesting spots depending on how much time you have:
Partridge Harbour (SW) Converse Bay (anchorage) Otter Creek up to Vergennes
Definitely call well in advance for Burlington reservations but dont miss a stop there, Valcour Island (NW anchorages), Burton Island (NE).
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I always liked Haverstraw Bay as an anchorage in the lower Hudson north of the Tappanzee bridge on the east side of the river. A zoo on weekends but sparse during the week.
Rondout Creek near Kingston is a nice stop. A tough fit for a 40 ft boat at the town marina, but we managed. There are some nice restaurants and a small museum.
Coeyman's Landing is/was a nice marina with great people, they used to be a Mainship dealer. There's another marina just south in New Baltimore both on the west side of the river. And if you'd rather anchor we always like going behind Houghtailing's Island (sp?). But the Metro runs all night lol.
Definately stay at Waterford if you can. Good place to restock.
We liked the Champlain canal wall at Schulerville, and Whitehall.
We liked the anchorage behind Valcour Island. And spending the night/refueling at Rouses point is a good plan.
We spent the night at several of the French speaking towns on the Richelieu, I think St Jeans and Chambly were a couple of them.
And stay in Old Montreal at the big marina there (can't recall the name). Spend a few days, it's interesting. But be wary of the last mile or 2 going into Montreal because you'll be bucking a strong current and it sneaks up on you (at least it did on me).

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I always liked Haverstraw Bay as an anchorage in the lower Hudson north of the Tappanzee bridge on the east side of the river. A zoo on weekends but sparse during the week.
Rondout Creek near Kingston is a nice stop. A tough fit for a 40 ft boat at the town marina, but we managed. There are some nice restaurants and a small museum.
Coeyman's Landing is/was a nice marina with great people, they used to be a Mainship dealer. There's another marina just south in New Baltimore both on the west side of the river. And if you'd rather anchor we always like going behind Houghtailing's Island (sp?). But the Metro runs all night lol.
Definately stay at Waterford if you can. Good place to restock.
We liked the Champlain canal wall at Schulerville, and Whitehall.
We liked the anchorage behind Valcour Island. And spending the night/refueling at Rouses point is a good plan.
We spent the night at several of the French speaking towns on the Richelieu, I think St Jeans and Chambly were a couple of them.
And stay in Old Montreal at the big marina there (can't recall the name). Spend a few days, it's interesting. But be wary of the last mile or 2 going into Montreal because you'll be bucking a strong current and it sneaks up on you (at least it did on me).

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Good Stuff Jay!

I had several of your recommendations on my list of possible stops, Coeymans, Haverstraw, etc. Also Waterford, Valcour Island, etc. I think we have to stop at Rouses Point to go through customs. For Montreal, we were thinking of staying at Port de Plaisance, Longueuil and take the high speed ferry to the city. Any thoughts on that idea?
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Good Stuff Jay!

I had several of your recommendations on my list of possible stops, Coeymans, Haverstraw, etc. Also Waterford, Valcour Island, etc. I think we have to stop at Rouses Point to go through customs. For Montreal, we were thinking of staying at Port de Plaisance, Longueuil and take the high speed ferry to the city. Any thoughts on that idea?
I liked being in the city, it was an awesome experience. It was a little more expensive but well worth the convenience IMO.
Customs is just past Rouses Point marina.
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I was there this summer and can give you a good bit of information. Although, if it were me, I'd rather come back through Champlain in August as it and the water will be much warmer (surface temperatures in the low 80s).

I covered a good bit of the lake in 2 months.

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Ted and all, we’d like to do the Champlain in 2023 but the lowest we’re likely to be is 17’3” or so with full tanks and everything removed from the radar arch. I understand that the limiting bridge height is 17’0”. Also think I read somewhere that the lock operators will fluctuate the water levels under certain conditions if asked. Know anything about this? Also, do water levels typically decline naturally in the summer, assuming that’s the dry season up there?

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In Montreal another great place to stay is in the Lachine Canal just above the bottom lock. It's run by Parks Canada. Fabulous location in the heart of the old city.
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We stayed at the Old Port of Montreal which is right in the heart of the city. Had a great time.


And in Quebec City, if you go that far, we also stayed in the Old Port which is inside a lock that stabilizes the level relative to the tides inside a closed basin. It was another excellent location for seeing the city.
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@O C Diver We met very briefly this summer I think. You were anchored over by the causeway in Malletts Bay. I stopped by to look at your beautiful boat in a little 13 whaler and we chatted briefly.
You had me scratching my head for a minute.

Inside the causeway, the small bay to the North is where I anchored twice. I think that's where we talked.

Really enjoyed Niquette Bay and hiking the park there. Left the boat for a week at Champlain Marina while doing a family vacation. The marina was extremely accommodating.

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Ted and all, wed like to do the Champlain in 2023 but the lowest were likely to be is 173 or so with full tanks and everything removed from the radar arch. I understand that the limiting bridge height is 170. Also think I read somewhere that the lock operators will fluctuate the water levels under certain conditions if asked. Know anything about this? Also, do water levels typically decline naturally in the summer, assuming thats the dry season up there?

Any direct experience much appreciated.
I can't give you a good answer as I'm away from the boat for 10 days. I believe there would be more than one brige at issue.

The dry season doesn't really effect the Champlain locks as the water doesn't come from Lake Champlain. Best way to describe it, from Waterford on the Champlain canal, you are ascending till lock 8. At lock 9 you start descending for the remaining locks to the lake. There is a small tributary that maintains the level between 8 and 9. The rest of the way in each direction, there are spillways to maintain the canal levels.

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Thanks!

I found an early discussion here: https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...nal-16866.html

Looks like half a dozen bridges are in the 17-foot range at normal pool. Passage for us would be rainfall/pool-dependent as well as the kindness of lock operators.
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