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Old 04-08-2018, 07:55 AM   #21
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So far, everyone is cruising both ways, upstream and down. Our Albin-25, OTOH, having been towed to Oregon from Illinois, and would launch at someplace like Umatilla, then proceed to Astoria. Would someone please identify a marina having a ramp that would be a likely place to park our truck and trailer for several weeks? Family in Beaverton (participating in parts of the cruise) would aid in recovering our vehicles.
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Old 04-08-2018, 08:48 AM   #22
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Delfin, We did it last summer at the end of July all the way to Clarkston from Portland. We went up to Kennewick in 2015 for the Hydro races. Last summer the current was still high from the runoff. The Snake from the Columbia to Ice Harbar dam was really really running fast. It was like a never ending pass up north for going against the current in a fairly narrow channel. We had a great time and will do it again after we have done a couple of trips up to the sound again. The main thing is to plan your lock times with your destination in the evening as ther are not a lot of places to duck out of the river in some stretches. Also stay in the channels on the Snake. One area we were going through showed 20+' on the chart but the bottom came up quick. We looked at the notes, it said shoaling noted 1977 on the current chart 😜. Let me know if you need any info.
Thanks! Sounds like it of a tree of between River depth and current when running upstream. What do you, or others with experience, think about a mid August timing?
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So far, everyone is cruising both ways, upstream and down. Our Albin-25, OTOH, having been towed to Oregon from Illinois, and would launch at someplace like Umatilla, then proceed to Astoria. Would someone please identify a marina having a ramp that would be a likely place to park our truck and trailer for several weeks? Family in Beaverton (participating in parts of the cruise) would aid in recovering our vehicles.
Not sure where on the river you want to load up your boat.

Boat ramps are

Kalama
Rainier
Willow Grove Longview WA
Cathlament
Illwaco
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Old 04-08-2018, 11:01 AM   #24
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We appreciate your reply, Guru. Looking briefly at municipal websites, Illwaco seems a worthy destination featuring a comprehensive harbor including a good ramp. As our objective is "the Columbia through the whole of Oregon" (minus the Pacific bar), Illwaco would put us right in the lee of a ridge overlooking the Pacific.

Our Albin is weatherly, however her 35 hp limits her power against wind and waves.
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Thanks! Sounds like it of a tree of between River depth and current when running upstream. What do you, or others with experience, think about a mid August timing?
River will be pretty flat then in terms of both wind and current compared to other times of the year.
I live very near the mid Columbia and own a Duckworth jet sled to enjoy the River very occasionally (at 35 knots and 4" draft). My caution at this time of the year would be protection from the heat and sun. It can and likely will be brutal once you pass Hood River and the landscape turns to the scene in an earlier post of barren desert to Clarkston. Expect temps in the river canyon of 100+.
For me, this can be a little appealing once in a while in the small fast boat for water sports, but I do not have much appetite at all for it in the big boats. That may just be related to the fact that I am familiar with it and less familiar with the cool salt water parts of our region where the opportunities to see new things seem entirely endless.
Keep us posted. I would love to buzz you in the Duck on your way through!
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Delfin, I think in mid August the currents should be way down so you should be fine. As stated above just below the Bonneville dam & the Ice Harbor on the Snake are the strongest currents. I believe you can contact the Bonneville Power to get the flow rates on the Columbia dams. Our American Tug 34 could go fast enough to make decent times in the high current areas. When we go upriver we stop at Beacon Rock just below the Bonneville dam, it is a nice spot and gets you close for an early morning lift if you desire. Above Bonneville you can stop at Cascade Locks, Hood River and The Dalles. The Dalles marina is just down river of the Dalles Dam. You want to try for an early lift at the Dalles Dam because of the winds there every day. Above the Dalles, we have anchored on the east side of Miller Island, the bottom there has weed (milfoil?) that can foul the anchor. It is a short hop to the John Day Dam. Just above he dam is the John Day River, which is an awesome spot if you are under 20-21'H because of the bridges. You can go a couple of miles up the river which stays pretty deep until right before the old park. We have anchored up there a couple of times. It looks like your masts are a bit over 20'H though. The next stop out of the channel and wind is the Arlington marina. Not much to see or do but they have diesel. After that there is Crow Butte park marina. It is out of the wind but no services at the marina. There is a marina at Umatilla just below McNary Dam that you can tuck into and wait for the lift. From there it is a nice cruise up to Tri Cities. The Clover Island YC is awesome for a nice rest stop, talk to Mike (GFC). From there you can go back down river a bit & turn up the Snake. You will want to time that transit to arrive near a lift time. I think you can tie up at the entrance but you would have to get out of the way if there is a barge coming out, watch your AIS and chat with the lift master, they were all really nice on the Snake. If you transmit AIS, they will call you as you approach (at least they did last year to us). There are a few places above Ice Harbor to anchor, just depends on winds. I need to be on my laptop computer with nav software to remember the stops after Ice Harbor.
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We took Volunteer up the Columbia and Snake rivers a number of years ago, Diesel isn't a issue.. especially for you. The current can be a bitch until you lock through at Bonneville, after that its just the wind.
I spent a number of hours with the throttle to the wall to go a couple miles.. most times showing .01 kt trying to get up the last stretch below Bonneville in May.
In my 20,000+ offshore miles it was the most harrowing thing I have done in a boat. It can flow over 500,000 cubic feet per second and its a couple hundred yards wide and max of about 35' in the center of the channel at that point.

We had a draft of 6' and never had an issue.. but anchoring can be interesting as holding can be hit and miss.
We towed our comp ski boat with Volunteer on a lot of the trip and spent the entire summer going over for long weekends and a few 10 day stretches.
AC really helps as it gets rather warm and nights can be buggy and uncomfortable.
The locks are for the most part not too big of a problem unless its windy.. and the lock tenders seem to be less enthusiastic dealing with recreational vessels vs commercial vessels.
We had a grand time at Yacht clubs in Portland and the Tri Cities..
You will really enjoy the folks at the Clover Island Yacht Club, they are our kind of people
We plan on doing the rivers again, probably on a boat that can cruise a bit faster than we did the first time.
A good part of the trip will be in water that looks like this
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Thanks HW... This will be a 2019 trip, so maybe we can connect in PT before then and I can pick your brain.
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Delfin, I think in mid August the currents should be way down so you should be fine. As stated above just below the Bonneville dam & the Ice Harbor on the Snake are the strongest currents. I believe you can contact the Bonneville Power to get the flow rates on the Columbia dams. Our American Tug 34 could go fast enough to make decent times in the high current areas. When we go upriver we stop at Beacon Rock just below the Bonneville dam, it is a nice spot and gets you close for an early morning lift if you desire. Above Bonneville you can stop at Cascade Locks, Hood River and The Dalles. The Dalles marina is just down river of the Dalles Dam. You want to try for an early lift at the Dalles Dam because of the winds there every day. Above the Dalles, we have anchored on the east side of Miller Island, the bottom there has weed (milfoil?) that can foul the anchor. It is a short hop to the John Day Dam. Just above he dam is the John Day River, which is an awesome spot if you are under 20-21'H because of the bridges. You can go a couple of miles up the river which stays pretty deep until right before the old park. We have anchored up there a couple of times. It looks like your masts are a bit over 20'H though. The next stop out of the channel and wind is the Arlington marina. Not much to see or do but they have diesel. After that there is Crow Butte park marina. It is out of the wind but no services at the marina. There is a marina at Umatilla just below McNary Dam that you can tuck into and wait for the lift. From there it is a nice cruise up to Tri Cities. The Clover Island YC is awesome for a nice rest stop, talk to Mike (GFC). From there you can go back down river a bit & turn up the Snake. You will want to time that transit to arrive near a lift time. I think you can tie up at the entrance but you would have to get out of the way if there is a barge coming out, watch your AIS and chat with the lift master, they were all really nice on the Snake. If you transmit AIS, they will call you as you approach (at least they did last year to us). There are a few places above Ice Harbor to anchor, just depends on winds. I need to be on my laptop computer with nav software to remember the stops after Ice Harbor.
Great info, thanks. Yes we're around 34' of the water with the masts, so that if a limitation as well.
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River will be pretty flat then in terms of both wind and current compared to other times of the year.
I live very near the mid Columbia and own a Duckworth jet sled to enjoy the River very occasionally (at 35 knots and 4" draft). My caution at this time of the year would be protection from the heat and sun. It can and likely will be brutal once you pass Hood River and the landscape turns to the scene in an earlier post of barren desert to Clarkston. Expect temps in the river canyon of 100+.
For me, this can be a little appealing once in a while in the small fast boat for water sports, but I do not have much appetite at all for it in the big boats. That may just be related to the fact that I am familiar with it and less familiar with the cool salt water parts of our region where the opportunities to see new things seem entirely endless.
Keep us posted. I would love to buzz you in the Duck on your way through!
I will do so. Sounds like we'll be glad for the a/c! Please buzz away if we can connect.
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