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Old 05-21-2020, 03:36 PM   #1
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Boat Buying Distraction

Hi all- reading these boards have helped me get through this pandemic mess, so thanks again for all your expert opinions. As I armchair shop for trawlers, I have yet another question. The two tips I've heart the most for first time boat buyers: "Buy your second boat first" and "Don't buy the biggest boat you can afford, but the smallest boat you can live with." I understand both these sentiments even if they seem a little contradictory to me. So, out of curiosity, do you think most first time buyer err on the side of too big or too small? Thanks all and stay safe
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:38 PM   #2
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:52 PM   #3
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I'm not an expert having only bought 2 ocean-going boats. A 30' sailboat and a 52'.
But I will suggest not buying a boat that requires too much repair and upgrading.
Depending on your budget, that will limit the size of boats you end up looking at.
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Old 05-21-2020, 04:57 PM   #4
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Big difference in living aboard...with and without a dirt dwelling for storage and just a cruiser or part timer
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It seems that most people tend to buy up once they get used to running the boat and get tired of not having enough room they buy the next size up. You can burn through a lot of money doing that. Trust me, I know.

My suggestion is buy the biggest boat that you think you will ever need. Get one that has all the systems & capacities that you want. If you can find the model you want that has all the cool stuff that you want.

Buy it once; repair as needed; learn to use it and then enjoy it!

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Old 05-21-2020, 06:51 PM   #6
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Gain experience. Make memories. Upgrade later, if you need to.

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Old 05-21-2020, 07:10 PM   #7
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Hi Landlubber.....,
My 2 cents worth would be......
Try not to buy a "project" boat unless repairing, upgrading, and just working on boats is what "turns your crank". Otherwise, I know of too many people who end up regretting their purchase as they spend "bags of money" (it always costs more than you think) and/or hours and hours and hours of their time working on the boat and they don't get to use it enough!
The 2 "catch phrases"? Anytime you have to change boats, you lose (money - there may be the very odd exception but that is rare). So, best advice is to take your time now, carefully consider what you are planning on using it for (details of that - not to go boating ), and what makes and models will achieve that for your within your budget. Also remember when "boat budgeting" that you will spend more money than you think (in the vast majority of cases) after the sale to repair, catch up on maintenance, upgrade, add items, and just making the boat your own. This can really add up, so plan for it! In this way, you can stand a better chance of "getting your second boat first" (in other words getting it right 9for you)).
Size. Get the smallest boat that you will be comfortable on, that meets MOST of your needs, wants, and nice to haves, that is in the best condition possible. Remember that all boats turn out to be a compromise. It is next to impossible to get everything you want (unless you have lots of experience and knowledge, and bags of money) on any boat, but if you spend the time and energy up front, you can probably come close!
However, as Murray wisely said, don't take too long, enjoy the now! Start the process and go boating.
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Most people want a bigger boat rather than a smaller boat. I recommend getting the bigger boat and then take the time to learn how to run it. Good luck with your search, have fun.
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First boat(s) for us always too small. Second to the last boat (which we currently own), too big. Forgot the pesky second rule about the smallest you can live in/with.
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First boat(s) for us always too small. Second to the last boat (which we currently own), too big. Forgot the pesky second rule about the smallest you can live in/with.
I'm on my 10th boat since 1995. They run from 30,32, 35, 38, 42, 48, 54,etc. 38 was too small and 54 was too big. Advice: By the smallest boat that has everything you want.
That may be a 32 or even a 64! Make a list of everything you can think of and then go shopping for the smallest that checks all the boxes.
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If it’s your first boat, you just don’t know what you don’t know. You can ask questions, you can learn a lot, in the end you can make your best guess but until you have lived with that first boat you won’t know what you really want. Do your research and then do your best.

As stated earlier I would stay away from projects. I would recommend going newer rather than older. I would recommend buying a boat that already Meets all your wants rather than trying to add features later. Buy the smallest boat that meets your wants but don’t buy a boat that is too small for next years mission.

Sounds easy, that’s why Comodave is on boat number 23 and I am on boat number 4.
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Did you get that the right way around.
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Champagne tastes on a beer budget.
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RTF,

I know a lot about that topic
My wife is very good at spending money, however, when it comes to the boat, I think I take the cake there
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Hi all- reading these boards have helped me get through this pandemic mess, so thanks again for all your expert opinions. As I armchair shop for trawlers, I have yet another question. The two tips I've heart the most for first time boat buyers: "Buy your second boat first" and "Don't buy the biggest boat you can afford, but the smallest boat you can live with." I understand both these sentiments even if they seem a little contradictory to me. So, out of curiosity, do you think most first time buyer err on the side of too big or too small? Thanks all and stay safe
They are totally contradictory. However, you give us none of the information necessary to give you good advice. What is your boating experience? Who will be boating with you? How do you intend to use the boat and where?
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If money is not a factor “ Go Big or Go Home”
If I went any bigger I would have had to get a different home because it would not fit down the canal behind my house
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The enjoyment of a boat has little to do with it's size.
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