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[HopCar]

Captaindeets When I took the picture she was across the canal from the Chris Craft Speedy Lee that belongs to a friend of mine. Last time I checked it looked like you had moved her a few houses up the canal and across to the east side. She is a beauty and I know all of us here on Trawler Forum would love to see some more pictures. When this crazy period is over, I’d love to get a tour.

[Moonfish]

I love our Cheoy Lee 46 LRC. But if someone wanted to give me a Cheoy Lee 52 motorsailer, I would not turn it down!

[KnotYet]

My last boat was a 52' Rhodes motorsailer. With her 85-Hp Perkins, she could motor
at hull speed and under sail only could easily exceed hull speed with a decent wind.
That boat had a steel hull, a 16' beam and displaced 30T.
It's really more about the designer's ability in making a boat that can do both well.

[deblen]

Motorsailers / Len





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[FF]

Today with modern construction a motor sailor can be a 90/90.

The 100% sail hull only has to pay for the weight of the engine & installation some fuel and perhaps the drag of the prop. Most "pure " sail boats 30-50ft would have some sort of tiny engine anyway.

As a power boat the hull is certainly optimized for under hull speed operation, the drag of the keel and far larger rudder , and the air drag of the mast & rigging should only cost 10% or so.

The biggest hassle for a 90/90 is the sail hull interior can not match the volume of a bloat boat , 2 /or 3 stories tall with an oxygen tent on top.

As few want a world cruiser the choice for most is easy, Until the motor sailor is BIG!

[AlaskaProf]

Originally Posted by Pete Meisinger

So.. I have always liked the idea of a motorsailer. There was one at my marina last summer, he was just leaving to do the Loop. As far as I can remember he didn't even have a mast. Most that I have seen don't have a mast.

Can you actually sail a motorsailer? Or is sort of a get home sail or stabilizing sail. I once heard that it is impractical to attempt to sail any vessel with a fixed prop.

pete

As someone wlse has opined, there is a lot of variability, because the line between motorsailer and "auxiliary sailboat" is never defined.

I have on two occasions chartered a Finnish-built Nauticat 44 ketch, which the builder and charter company refer to as a motorsailer. Because of the relatively high freeboard and the generous pilothouse, it tended to make a fair amount of leeway going to windward. Otherwise, an excellent sailer in all respects.

Quite capable of hull speed under power or sail.

If i ever acquire the resources to trade up, this would be my first choice.

[Wayfarer]

Originally Posted by Captaindeets

Howdy, i just saw this picture on google. She’s mine. She’s a 1954 Palmer Johnson. I’m currently well into the restoration process. She’s one hell of a vessel.

Welcome to the forum!

[warren]

Does a motorsailer sail?
This question has come up at various time in this thread, the answer is yes or it should .
Check out this you tube ‘sailing Bora bora’ a classic 1974 Victory 40 design by be de stadt that recently did a complete circuit of the North Atlantic under sail and motor .
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...cU0oXmmQ9PPYal
Lovely couple , lovely story, lovely boat, enjoy
Cheers Warren
Here she is sailing in the trade winds at about 7 knts!

[KnotYet]

Edit: Ha I just saw that I posted a similar response back in April! I'll leave this up anyway.

Our last boat was a 52' 30 ton motorsailer designed by Phil Rhodes.
She sailed like a sailboat until maybe 45 degrees from the wind.
The 16' beam made it hard to beat any closer than that.
Her hull speed was 8 knots and she could manage that in 15 or so knots of wind aft.

That photo of a double headsail with furled main reminds me of how I spent
most of the 17 days it took to get to Hawaii from King Harbor in 1981!

[cardude01]

Originally Posted by KnotYet

Edit: Ha I just saw that I posted a similar response back in April! I'll leave this up anyway.

Our last boat was a 52' 30 ton motorsailer designed by Phil Rhodes.
She sailed like a sailboat until maybe 45 degrees from the wind.
The 16' beam made it hard to beat any closer than that.
Her hull speed was 8 knots and she could manage that in 15 or so knots of wind aft.

That photo of a double headsail with furled main reminds me of how I spent
most of the 17 days it took to get to Hawaii from King Harbor in 1981!

Your 17 day Hawaii trip sounds like quite the adventure! I sometimes dream of long voyages like that, but then I snap out of it and realize I don’t really want to do that. I’ve motorsailed to the Bahamas a few times, and that’s enough for me currently.

[Moonfish]

Originally Posted by cardude01

Your 17 day Hawaii trip sounds like quite the adventure! I sometimes dream of long voyages like that, but then I snap out of it and realize I don’t really want to do that.

LOL!

I can relate! The only real sailing dream/goal I had (when younger) was to singlehand to Hawaii. But then, like you said, I don't really have that desire anymore...

[KnotYet]

Originally Posted by cardude01

Your 17 day Hawaii trip sounds like quite the adventure! I sometimes dream of long voyages like that, but then I snap out of it and realize I don’t really want to do that. I’ve motorsailed to the Bahamas a few times, and that’s enough for me currently.

When I pick the next boat, ocean crossing range is high on my list of requirements.
Which part of the world I find 'the one' in will determine the itinerary from there.

Many writers have described what it's like crossing an ocean better than I ever could.
That feeling of being utterly self-reliant 1000 miles from land is a drug like no other.
40 years later I'm ready for another fix! Next time with a few more luxuries, though.

[cardude01]

Originally Posted by KnotYet

When I pick the next boat, ocean crossing range is high on my list of requirements.

Which part of the world I find 'the one' in will determine the itinerary from there.



Many writers have described what it's like crossing an ocean better than I ever could.

That feeling of being utterly self-reliant 1000 miles from land is a drug like no other.

40 years later I'm ready for another fix! Next time with a few more luxuries, though.

Yeah, it always sounds so romantic and interesting when I read about long voyages. However, my wife is def not interested in anything like that and doesn’t like traveling at night. She was freaked out about her first Bahamas crossing when we left Lake Worth around 3am, even though she slept through most of it. Lol.

Also, I’ve realized I’m just not as meticulous as I would need to be to make a long ocean voyage. I’ve got a little too much “oh screw it, let’s just go”, I can fix it if it breaks mentality. I can get away with this coastal cruising and in the Bahamas somewhat, but it would bite me on an ocean crossing I think.

[vanosyachts]

Originally Posted by cool beans

It looks very similar to a Philip Rhodes Motorsailer.

The drawing you're showing is of our boat, Virginia Reel, the 65ft version (not the 44). She's a fantastic boat and we've loved her for 20 years but it's time to turn to the next chapter and she's for sale now. Happy to answer any questions! 129k which reflects that she needs some money put into her to cruise. She's currently in La Paz Mexico and at the best marina! With just a little love and influx of energy she'll take the new owners ANYWHERE they want to go!

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/196...ailer-3814713/