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Old 02-15-2020, 03:37 PM   #21
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It's not a three or four month season here. It's a twelve month season, just takes two or three years to accumulate them.

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Old 02-16-2020, 12:12 AM   #22
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The west coast is undeniably nice particularly SoCal. Slips are expensive and anchorages limited though. We have anchored from San Diego to Catalina and the Channel Islands and found very nice spots, but I think I can count all of the anchorages in that stretch on two hands, maybe a bit more.

If you want to cruise full time and rely on anchorages it will get old. You need a marina base and then head out for several days at a time to anchorages. Long Beach is a good central location but slips will be $15/ft/mo or more and many do not allow live aboards.

The east coast OTOH has thousands of anchorages.


The best part of the West Coast is not California. If you are comparing the California coast to all of the East Coast, the East Coast wins. But throw in Washington State, British Columbia and Alaska and its no contest.

This from Wikipedia:

"The aerial distance from Victoria on the Strait of Juan de Fuca to Stewart, British Columbia on the Alaska border at the head of the Portland Canal is 965 kilometres (600 mi) in length. However, because of its many deep inlets and complicated island shorelines—and 40,000 islands of varying sizes, including Vancouver Island and Haida Gwaii —the total length of the British Columbia Coast is over 25,725 kilometres (15,985 mi), making up about 10% of the Canadian coastline at 243,042 kilometres (151,019 mi).[1][citation needed] The coastline's geography, which is shared with Southeast Alaska and adjoining parts of northwest Washington, is most comparable to that of Norway and its heavily indented coastline of fjords,[2] a landscape also found in southern Chile. The dominant landforms of the BC Coast are the Insular Mountains, comprising most of Vancouver Island and Haida Gwaii, and the Coast Mountains, which extend beyond into Alaska and the Yukon.

The British Columbia Coast is mostly part of the Pacific temperate rain forests ecoregion as defined by the World Wide Fund for Nature. In the system used by Environment Canada, established by the Commission for Environmental Cooperation (CEC), the area is defined as the Pacific Maritime Ecozone. In the geoclimatic zones system used by the British Columbia Ministry of Forests the bulk of the region comprises the Coastal Western Hemlock biogeoclimatic zone, although small areas flanking the Strait of Georgia at the coast's southern extremity are classed in the Coastal Douglas-fir zone."
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:45 AM   #23
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There are plenty of slips in that area for way less than $15/ft. Check out Island Yacht, Island Yacht #2, Newmarks, Leward Bay, Holiday Harbor, Lighthouse, and more.

Liveaboards are limited by the state to 10% and additionally by los angeles to 5% (of the number of slips at a marina). So, those slots often have waitlists and those available may be less desirable, e.g. under train bridge near trains.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:12 PM   #24
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Out of curiosity, what is your monthly $$/ft. slip budget?

Cali, esp the LA area, has all types of marinas. Some are resort style with folks looking for that and others who are, and some with simpler offerings, for those looking for that.


Last time I checked for a 36ft slip It was between $550 and $650. Id say about $300 is more than reasonable to store a boat.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:41 PM   #25
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Hi TwinDiesel,

Yeah. Okay. When I had a 42' there and rented a 55' slip, I was paying $11/slip-ft plus some pass-through fees. It came to a littlenover $600/mo. So a 40' slip would provably be about $450.

Shorter slips tend to have have less beam and narrower fairways, so could be a little less expensive...but not down to $300/mo.
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Lots of spectacular fresh wayer cruising grounds in the NE. You dont have to stick around when thdcwayerbgetd hard but dont miss it if you are adventuresome... it is wonderful and lots of places to spend the rest of the year.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:57 PM   #27
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All places are great when you are boating! East or west...

My San Francisco monthly slip fee 50 $450/ month.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:23 PM   #28
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Last time I checked for a 36ft slip It was between $550 and $650. Id say about $300 is more than reasonable to store a boat.
I kept my last boat, a 52', at Al Larson Marina in L.A. harbor on Terminal Island.
For 15 years I paid $7/ft on a mooring (7yrs) and then on a 60' end tie (8yrs).
It was actually a sweet deal because I always paid on time, was friendly, helpful, etc.
The slip fee at that time - 5 years ago - was only $10/ft.
But Al Larson's nickname is 'Loser's Landing'... Hmm
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:58 AM   #29
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If the PNW is too cold for your blood (it is for me), San Francisco Bay is the only decent cruising zone in the west coast. There are dozens of anchorages inside the bay, and decent laid back trawler cruising all the way to Sacramento. And there are decent trips out the Gate to Half Moon Bay, Drakes Bay and a bit further if desired. However, SF suffers from the same housing and slip costs as LA. Before moving my boat to Ensenada last year to start a refit, I was in Emery Cove Marina (Emeryville) and paid about $575/mo for a 40-foot slip (FYI - Ensenada is not much cheaper). A bit of a reality check : it costs as much to slip and insure and maintain a $50k boat as it does a $250k one. By the time you have a diver clean the bottom every couple months, haul every couple years, insurance, etc, I don't think you're getting away for less than $10k per year no matter where you are.

I would think a person could get a few years of weekend cruising out of SoCal before it got monotonous. It's been a while, but the Oxnard area marinas used to be relatively affordable and nice. Check out channel islands harbor marina. Won't be $300/mo, but won't be MDR rates either. And housing is less expensive.

As far as the East Coast, there is a lot more dawdling style cruising. There are long stretches of protected ICW waters and many, many boating centers. I moved from SF to St Pete about 15 years ago. It was 82-degrees here yesterday and took a friend's 21-foot center console boat to a waterside restaurant for lunch.

I haven't spent a ton of time in the Chesapeake, but it's probably the best dawdling style of cruising in the country. It's big and diverse. But does have winter. It also bleeds into the NC Pamlico Sound area with New Bern, Wilmington, and other boating centers

But the epic trawler crawl in the US - perhaps the world - is the 6000 mile Great Loop.

The missing link here is your ability to adapt the rest of your life to whatever you decide is the best flavor of trawlering for you - unclear whether your idea is to cruise, or live in a cruising grounds and keep a home-base. The Bahamas are great, but not a long weekend trip if you're working.

Although our departure date is still fluid, my other half and I will leave out of Ensenada and eventually end up in Florida. An immensely doable trip on many trawler style boats, though decent seamanship skills are required (given your fishing background....). The Baja Ha Ha is a good jumping off point for many with similar dreams.

Good luck.
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I am in San Diego and although I have only had my Trawler for a little over a year I have had a boat here for about 20 years. Yes slip fees are very expensive but I look at the Sheet and see the slips in LA are considerably less than here in San Diego, and your so much closer to the various Islands in the Channel Island Chain. San Diego was great because of Mexico being so close, but now there are so many restrictions that it's expensive and complicated to explore their waters inside 14 miles of shore.

I have Cruised the PNW, and Alaska with family who have boats. That's much more appealing to me than the East Coast unless you prefer people over wildlife. I would get my feet wet here in Southern California then buy some cold weather gear and go North! Boat snobs are everywhere but much fewer in small marinas, away from huge population zones.
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