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Old 09-14-2017, 10:50 PM   #21
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What war, and what killing?
You're kidding right?
Americas history is one non stop war with countless deaths and untold suffering.
You are involved in a few now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time..._States_at_war

You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:53 PM   #22
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...You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
Uh oh, thread drift.
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It means all crew are qualifies sunmariners and no longer basic submarine trainees
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Ot doesn't happen very often as they always sail with trainees on board. Congrats to the boat.
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It means all crew are qualifies sunmariners and no longer basic submarine trainees
A US Navy sub flies gold or silver dolphin pennants to show if all officers or enlisted on board are qualified or not.
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Good work. Now back on the job, more missile fragments to collect.
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I stand corrected. The Canadian submarine service flys the jolly roger.
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Old 09-15-2017, 01:38 AM   #29
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...and what ? the Australian Military has been just baking cookies for the last 117 years ?

Second Boer War 1899-1902
Boxer Rebellion 1900-1901
WW I 1914-1918
Russian Revolution 1918-1919
Malatia 1927
Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
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Old 09-15-2017, 04:56 AM   #30
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...and what ? the Australian Military.......
On a far smaller scale but we weren't talking about what someone else is doing and just because someone else does it doesn't make it right.
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You're kidding right?
Americas history is one non stop war with countless deaths and untold suffering.
You are involved in a few now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time..._States_at_war

You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.

America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.

Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.

So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.

And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in.
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I agree, as a Canadian I feel embarrassed that we spend so little on defense relying on the US but then tout our social welfare state as so superior? We would not be able to do so if we had to protect ourselves. If not prepared to actually have the forces we should at least physically pay for our protection. I know our government says our forces are there but they are so ill equipped and manned that they are actually a hazard to everyone else which is never reported by our blatantly biased left wing propaganda media machine. I for one am extremely grateful for the umbrella that our American friends provide us with.
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And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.

America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.

Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.

So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.

And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in.

Richard, you are "ON" today. Thanks.
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...and what ? the Australian Military has been just baking cookies for the last 117 years ?

Second Boer War 1899-1902
Boxer Rebellion 1900-1901
WW I 1914-1918
Russian Revolution 1918-1919
Malatia 1927
Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
WW II 1939-1945 ( Australia entered 2 years before our "war machine" )
Occupation of Japan 1946-1952
Berlin Airlift 1948-1949
Korea 1950-1953
Malaya Emergency 1950-1960
Indonesian Confrontation 1962-1966
Vietnam 1962-1973
Fiji 1987
Namibia 1989
Gulf War 1991
Cambodia 1992-1993
Somalia 1993
Rwanda 1994-1995
East Timor 1999-2013
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COOKIES! Good grief, we don't bake cookies we bake biscuits.
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Uh oh, thread drift.
SERIOUS.
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And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.
While you make good points re: WW2, Japan and Germany and I am grateful for that, there it ends.


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America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.
The people perhaps but not the ones who profit.
Their motives are purely monetary driven.

Every war since, and there have been many, has been about theft of resources, controlling markets and putting money in the pockets of those who have a vested interest.

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Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.
No, it has benefited the corporations.

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So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.
Because how "YOU" spend your money affects the safety and lives of the rest of the planet

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And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in.
I think if you did a bit of research into the cause of wars, who the actual instigators are and see who the real beneficiaries are you will soon see who is delusional


War is big business.
America has become the Military Industrial Complex that President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned of.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mili...strial_complex

US Major General Smedley Butler saw through the BS, its a shame others cant.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
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Staring down the Soviet Union for all those years might be worth something.
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That furuno radar is one tough sucker
Looks like Furuno's new doppler NXT, which I just installed on our boat. Really nice stuff and if it's good enough for a SeaWolf attack sub, I guess it'll do for Stella.
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Staring down the Soviet Union for all those years might be worth something.
Cue Eisenhowers Miltary Industrial Complex speech.


Interesting that the Cold War started to develop not long after the Second World War when the USA and the USSR no longer had the common enemy of Nazism.

So yes, the cold war was certainly worth something .......to those who made the bombs, bombers, bullets, missiles etc now that WW2 had dried up.

Then the hatred of communism continued onto other wars with "Reds Under the Bed"
More wars = more money for the "creators".

With the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism the "creators" had to come up with a new enemy.
What happened next do you think?
Who is the media telling you to hate now?
Do you see a pattern?
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Looks like Furuno's new doppler NXT, which I just installed on our boat. Really nice stuff and if it's good enough for a SeaWolf attack sub, I guess it'll do for Stella.
I'm guessing its inside when under and when surfaced quickly put on the post and plugged in.
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