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09-14-2017, 10:50 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
What war, and what killing?
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You're kidding right?
Americas history is one non stop war with countless deaths and untold suffering.
You are involved in a few now.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time..._States_at_war
You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
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09-14-2017, 10:53 PM
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#22
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,410
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Bubbleheads...🤣
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What kind of boat is that?
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09-14-2017, 11:06 PM
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Guru
City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
...You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
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Uh oh, thread drift.
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09-14-2017, 11:38 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
City: Victoria
Vessel Name: Senang Sakali
Vessel Model: North Sea 37
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 216
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It means all crew are qualifies sunmariners and no longer basic submarine trainees
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09-14-2017, 11:40 PM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria
Vessel Name: Senang Sakali
Vessel Model: North Sea 37
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 216
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Ot doesn't happen very often as they always sail with trainees on board. Congrats to the boat.
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09-14-2017, 11:45 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,969
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Quote:
Originally Posted by senangsekali
It means all crew are qualifies sunmariners and no longer basic submarine trainees
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A US Navy sub flies gold or silver dolphin pennants to show if all officers or enlisted on board are qualified or not.
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09-15-2017, 12:15 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 12,921
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Good work. Now back on the job, more missile fragments to collect.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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09-15-2017, 12:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria
Vessel Name: Senang Sakali
Vessel Model: North Sea 37
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 216
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I stand corrected. The Canadian submarine service flys the jolly roger.
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09-15-2017, 01:38 AM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,504
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...and what ? the Australian Military has been just baking cookies for the last 117 years ?
Second Boer War 1899-1902
Boxer Rebellion 1900-1901
WW I 1914-1918
Russian Revolution 1918-1919
Malatia 1927
Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
WW II 1939-1945 ( Australia entered 2 years before our "war machine" )
Occupation of Japan 1946-1952
Berlin Airlift 1948-1949
Korea 1950-1953
Malaya Emergency 1950-1960
Indonesian Confrontation 1962-1966
Vietnam 1962-1973
Fiji 1987
Namibia 1989
Gulf War 1991
Cambodia 1992-1993
Somalia 1993
Rwanda 1994-1995
East Timor 1999-2013
Afganistan 2001-Present
Iraq 2003-2011
Solomon Islands 2003-2013
vs ISIL 2014-Present
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09-15-2017, 04:56 AM
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#30
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
...and what ? the Australian Military.......
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On a far smaller scale but we weren't talking about what someone else is doing and just because someone else does it doesn't make it right.
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09-15-2017, 05:43 AM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,812
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
You're kidding right?
Americas history is one non stop war with countless deaths and untold suffering.
You are involved in a few now.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time..._States_at_war
You don't spend trillions of dollars on a war machine so you can go out checking crab pots and they don't fly jolly roger flags to tell you its "talk like a pirate" day.
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And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.
America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.
Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.
So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.
And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in.
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09-15-2017, 07:14 AM
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#32
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Veteran Member
City: Leamington ON
Vessel Name: Tootles
Vessel Model: Nordic 26
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 59
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I agree, as a Canadian I feel embarrassed that we spend so little on defense relying on the US but then tout our social welfare state as so superior? We would not be able to do so if we had to protect ourselves. If not prepared to actually have the forces we should at least physically pay for our protection. I know our government says our forces are there but they are so ill equipped and manned that they are actually a hazard to everyone else which is never reported by our blatantly biased left wing propaganda media machine. I for one am extremely grateful for the umbrella that our American friends provide us with.
Jim
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09-15-2017, 08:27 AM
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#33
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.
America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.
Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.
So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.
And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in. 
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Richard, you are "ON" today. Thanks.
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09-15-2017, 08:36 AM
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#34
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
Vessel Model: IG 36 Quad Cabin
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
...and what ? the Australian Military has been just baking cookies for the last 117 years ?
Second Boer War 1899-1902
Boxer Rebellion 1900-1901
WW I 1914-1918
Russian Revolution 1918-1919
Malatia 1927
Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
WW II 1939-1945 ( Australia entered 2 years before our "war machine" )
Occupation of Japan 1946-1952
Berlin Airlift 1948-1949
Korea 1950-1953
Malaya Emergency 1950-1960
Indonesian Confrontation 1962-1966
Vietnam 1962-1973
Fiji 1987
Namibia 1989
Gulf War 1991
Cambodia 1992-1993
Somalia 1993
Rwanda 1994-1995
East Timor 1999-2013
Afganistan 2001-Present
Iraq 2003-2011
Solomon Islands 2003-2013
vs ISIL 2014-Present
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COOKIES! Good grief, we don't bake cookies we bake biscuits.
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09-15-2017, 10:08 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
City: La Conner, WA
Vessel Name: Agnus Dei
Vessel Model: 36' Shin Shing
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kthoennes
Uh oh, thread drift.
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SERIOUS.
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GOD, Family, career
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09-15-2017, 03:00 PM
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#36
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3
And Thank God for that, because if not for the good old U.S. of A., you folks in Asia would just be one big slave colony of the Japanese, while in Europe, well, you know, don't you.
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While you make good points re: WW2, Japan and Germany and I am grateful for that, there it ends.
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America makes mistakes, but our motives are usually good.
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The people perhaps but not the ones who profit.
Their motives are purely monetary driven.
Every war since, and there have been many, has been about theft of resources, controlling markets and putting money in the pockets of those who have a vested interest.
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Yes, we spend a lot of money on defense because for the last 70 years, it has benefited most of the free world.
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No, it has benefited the corporations.
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So why don't you let us decide how we want to spend our money.
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Because how "YOU" spend your money affects the safety and lives of the rest of the planet
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And you can enjoy the delusional world you seem to live in.
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I think if you did a bit of research into the cause of wars, who the actual instigators are and see who the real beneficiaries are you will soon see who is delusional
War is big business.
America has become the Military Industrial Complex that President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned of.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mili...strial_complex
US Major General Smedley Butler saw through the BS, its a shame others cant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
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09-15-2017, 03:18 PM
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#37
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,866
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Staring down the Soviet Union for all those years might be worth something.
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09-15-2017, 04:07 PM
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#38
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemainship
That furuno radar is one tough sucker
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Looks like Furuno's new doppler NXT, which I just installed on our boat. Really nice stuff and if it's good enough for a SeaWolf attack sub, I guess it'll do for Stella.
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09-15-2017, 04:12 PM
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#39
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Staring down the Soviet Union for all those years might be worth something.
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Cue Eisenhowers Miltary Industrial Complex speech.
Interesting that the Cold War started to develop not long after the Second World War when the USA and the USSR no longer had the common enemy of Nazism.
So yes, the cold war was certainly worth something .......to those who made the bombs, bombers, bullets, missiles etc now that WW2 had dried up.
Then the hatred of communism continued onto other wars with "Reds Under the Bed"
More wars = more money for the "creators".
With the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism the "creators" had to come up with a new enemy.
What happened next do you think?
Who is the media telling you to hate now?
Do you see a pattern?
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09-15-2017, 04:13 PM
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#40
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angus99
Looks like Furuno's new doppler NXT, which I just installed on our boat. Really nice stuff and if it's good enough for a SeaWolf attack sub, I guess it'll do for Stella.
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I'm guessing its inside when under and when surfaced quickly put on the post and plugged in.
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