Starlink RV is now Starlink Roam

Alaskan Sea-Duction · 03-09-2023, 10:44 PM

https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/sta...-starlink-roam

ofer · 03-09-2023, 10:52 PM

that is not good use for boaters.

Mambo42 · 03-09-2023, 11:19 PM

And I just ordered Starlink RV ! Arrived 3 weeks ago, works perfect, but when I signed up the price was slightly different.
Hope that the geo fencing will not work. We are close to the shore each night, but if they would be accurate within 10 meters they could figure out I am actually lying in the water. In that case Starlink will be sold again.

SteveK · 03-09-2023, 11:22 PM

Changing the name from RV to Roam actually suggests off land use as well as land. The word land is used to define the roam area, such as North America for Canada, USA and Mexico. The word vessel & boats is still used in terms of service.

bowball · 03-10-2023, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveK

Changing the name from RV to Roam actually suggests off land use as well as land. The word land is used to define the roam area, such as North America for Canada, USA and Mexico. The word vessel & boats is still used in terms of service.

Except they said they are geofencing it to land only.

NWboater2 · 03-10-2023, 02:07 AM

They still have starlink maritime. Lil’ more, at $5000/mo.

O C Diver · 03-10-2023, 04:18 AM

More information here from post #34 on.

https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...a-67078-2.html

Ted

Iggy · 03-10-2023, 05:25 AM

It sounds like there gearing up for the maritime industry. Tankers, cargo ships and alike.

The little guy like me is going to left out. I was thinking when my wife retires going with Starlink. Now at 5K a month, no way! If they enforce the land use only policy. They will loose a small market that may make them charge their minds.

For what its worth, I was thinking of trying T-Mobile's home internet for the boat this May. No equipment cost, no contract and you can open it up and attach a external antenna. Yes, its cellular so it has it limitations. At $40 per month being phone customer sounds inviting. Beats 5K a month and no data restrictions.

The antenna will only cost me $400 and if it does work out I could use it for my Peplink.

For the next few years I just want to stay coastal. When my wife retires, than we will see whats out there for internet service.

rslifkin · 03-10-2023, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

It sounds like there gearing up for the maritime industry. Tankers, cargo ships and alike.

The little guy like me is going to left out. I was thinking when my wife retires going with Starlink. Now at 5K a month, no way! If they enforce the land use only policy. They will loose a small market that may make them charge their minds.

For what its worth, I was thinking of trying T-Mobile's home internet for the boat this May. No equipment cost, no contract and you can open it up and attach a external antenna. Yes, its cellular so it has it limitations. At $40 per month being phone customer sounds inviting. Beats 5K a month and no data restrictions.

The antenna will only cost me $400 and if it does work out I could use it for my Peplink.

For the next few years I just want to stay coastal. When my wife retires, than we will see whats out there for internet service.

My biggest concern with the T-mobile home internet is that you have to use their router device with that service, you can't put the SIM card in anything else. And that router doesn't support external antennas from what I know.

FWT · 03-10-2023, 08:01 AM

The biggest quandary for those of us still on the sidelines isn't what it is now. And not what it was. Its the open question of what it all becomes, and no one can have that answer.

Iggy · 03-10-2023, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rslifkin

My biggest concern with the T-mobile home internet is that you have to use their router device with that service, you can't put the SIM card in anything else. And that router doesn't support external antennas from what I know.

There are You Tube videos on installing external antennas. https://www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/...teway-arcadyan

If you don't want to use there router. You just turn off WiFi and use a ethernet cable to the Wan port of your own router. From there go ethernet and/or WiFi.

If I do get T-mobile , that is my plan to use my Pepwave router. More so for roll over making T-mobile 1st in the list.

rslifkin · 03-10-2023, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

There are You Tube videos on installing external antennas. https://www.waveform.com/a/b/guides/...teway-arcadyan

If you don't want to use there router. You just turn off WiFi and use a ethernet cable to the Wan port of your own router. From there go ethernet and/or WiFi from your own router.

Good to know on the antennas. That last option adds more power usage though.

ofer · 03-10-2023, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FWT

The biggest quandary for those of us still on the sidelines isn't what it is now. And not what it was. Its the open question of what it all becomes, and no one can have that answer.

perfectly said

Iggy · 03-10-2023, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ofer

perfectly said

Yep!

Alaskan Sea-Duction · 03-10-2023, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O C Diver

More information here from post #34 on.

https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...a-67078-2.html

Ted

Hey Mods, combine with another thread?

Alaskan Sea-Duction · 03-10-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FWT

The biggest quandary for those of us still on the sidelines isn't what it is now. And not what it was. Its the open question of what it all becomes, and no one can have that answer.

I'm in this situation. I was going to install Starlink this spring, but decided to wait until next winter just in case. Looks like "just in case" has arrived.

I guess we will continue with our AT&A hotspot.

mvweebles · 03-10-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction

I'm in this situation. I was going to install Starlink this spring, but decided to wait until next winter just in case. Looks like "just in case" has arrived.

I guess we will continue with our AT&A hotspot.

The big evolution has already happend - Starlink became viable and affordable much, much quicker than I ever expected. In relative terms, advances will now be 'evolutionary.' Trouble with that is there is always a reason to wait until tomorrow.

Until there's a viable competitor, pricing and/or use restrictions will only go up. But it has to remain viable for mass usage. Adding users is an incredibly important metric in tech these days.

In short, biggest risk is antenna becomes obsolete or something like that, not that boaters are effectively cut-off. But hey, a career mentor used to say 'Corporations do not always act rationally.' And that was before Elon Musk came along....

Peter

Don L · 03-10-2023, 11:50 AM

Well I have been using my RV system in the Bahamas for 2.5 months for $135/mo. It it going to be $150/mo next month and we will see how far from land they geofence. But if it ends up being a $200/mo system it is still worth having compared to $100/mo cell phone internet on the boat.

Do people not remember how it worked with the cable and cell phone companies and their hook and raise you prices? I never expected Starlink would not follow the method.

O C Diver · 03-10-2023, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

It sounds like there gearing up for the maritime industry. Tankers, cargo ships and alike.

The little guy like me is going to left out. I was thinking when my wife retires going with Starlink. Now at 5K a month, no way! If they enforce the land use only policy. They will loose a small market that may make them charge their minds.

For what its worth, I was thinking of trying T-Mobile's home internet for the boat this May. No equipment cost, no contract and you can open it up and attach a external antenna. Yes, its cellular so it has it limitations. At $40 per month being phone customer sounds inviting. Beats 5K a month and no data restrictions.

The antenna will only cost me $400 and if it does work out I could use it for my Peplink.

For the next few years I just want to stay coastal. When my wife retires, than we will see whats out there for internet service.

I don't think it's going to happen like that.

I'm sure Starlink wants to make the commercial guys with heavy usage pay. But the reality is that they would also like to collect $150 a month from millions of RV and boaters. I was looking at the Great Lakes coverage for my travels this summer. They show zero coverage away from the shore line. Really can't imagine they're going to waste the time geofencing the Great Lakes just to piss off some boaters to get them to cancel their service.

I think it’s more likely that Starlink doesn't want the liability of warranting the antennas on moving boats, or stationary ones for that matter. I think they're perfectly happy to collect my $150 per month and know that I'm not going to complain to them about warranting the antenna when it dies from saltwater intrusion. It's actually a pretty smart business move. Prohibit the use (knowing that people will do it anyway); collect the money for the service and antenna; have no liability as the use was prohibited.

Ted

chanprr · 03-10-2023, 01:29 PM

Just a note about internet during my SE Alaska cruise last summer.
We have a Wave WiFi Rogue Pro Dual - Band System and router on board, which was spotty at best, even in marinas. Needed a strong signal to prevent dropouts.
The best performance and connectivity was with Weboost and iPhone hotspot. Even one bar was boosted sufficiently to be able to use my Laptop nav software. Both AT&T and T-Mobile work well with the Weboost.
If Starlink becomes totally unnecessarily expensive, then we will go without it on our next cruise to SE Alaska.