Interesting boats

[BruceK]

It's pretty, any idea on the price? Interesting that there are no electronics, but not even a compass?

Price shows in the advert,Au $199,990.

 

[OldDan1943]

Price shows in the advert,Au $199,990.

No electronics? No compass? Not so bad. You can choose your electronic and not worry about filling up the old holes in the panels

 

[BruceK]

Halvorsens for Sale

Here`s the other end of the spectrum. Superficially ok, but it`s the strawberry punnet syndrome "the deeper you go, the worse it gets". I think the seller spent $$$ fixing the hull, then realizing what the rest was going to cost chose to try to bail out. Plenty of rot in various places. The engines may sell it at engine value. It probably had twin gassers originally so there are $ in the replacements.
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/halvorsen-32-viking/282358
A lot of classic Halvorsens for sale at present, maybe a sign of the economic times approaching.

 

[Mako]

"Ugly Betty" on the Hudson.

I like the name. Fits perfectly and the owner is not shy about admitting it.

 

[Adopo]

Check this out, needs hull paint?

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2007-luxe--motor-1700-8573684/

 

[Adopo]

more...

 

[Art]

I like it... unusual, but OK!

Unfortunately no flying bridge viewing opportunity... so, very limited view of water or dock at bow.

 

[OldDan1943]

A canal boat?
First "improvement", get rid of the manual windlass

 

[backinblue]

With that anchor and a manual windlass you can save on your gym membership! Hydraulic thrusters and a manual windlass, go figure.

 

[OldDan1943]

With that anchor and a manual windlass you can save on your gym membership! Hydraulic thrusters and a manual windlass, go figure.

No idea what the HP of the thrusters

 

[Art]

I did not notice speed-at-rpm or fuel nmpg therefrom... anyone else see that??

 

[bshanafelt]

another actually interesting boat:

https://skagit.craigslist.org/boa/d/oak-harbor-38-steel-pilothouse-trawler/7543706902.html

 

[cardude01]

I really like that one. Stabilized with fish and a sail, big engine room, nice JD engine. Salty!

I bet it’s good in a following sea with that canoe stern.

 

[Adopo]

That is a cool seaworthy looking boat, Garden had some beautiful designs. Also proves you can still find some cool things on Craigslist. Here's some details for when the link goes cold.


Nightfall is a 38’ steel pilothouse trawler designed by William Garden. Her hull was built by Waterline Yachts in Sidney, British Columbia. She was then shipped, by ferry, to Orcas Island where a cabinet maker completed the pilothouse, trunk and beautiful interior. The original owner, an Orcas Island resident, spared no expense in her making. She is a true NW boat. An Alaskan veteran multiple times, she has proven herself again and again.

While Nightfall’s design is strong, capable and in the tradition of the northwest fishing trawler, her other attributes include significant cruising economy and comfort. Her commercial duty John Deere/Lugger diesel engine is extremely efficient burning just 1.1 GPH at 7 knots (1350 RPM), great economy at a reasonable speed, and little or no wake. Her warm pilothouse with L-shaped settee provides a cozy 360 degree view of the surrounding seascape as well as the controls and instrumentation to keep her on course. Down below her light filled main salon is spacious with a galley that will meet the needs of the most demanding chef. The master stateroom with ensuite head and convertible pilot house settee provide good accommodations for the cruising couple and occasional guests. Throughout the boat, there is plenty of storage for all the spares and stores necessary for long term voyaging.

Nightfall is well equipped and ready for her next voyage…Alaska, Mexico, and beyond. Fuel (capacity in excess of 1,000 gallons) and water (600 gallons) give her incredible range. And when she drops anchor at the end of the day, she will definitely capture the interest of the other cruisers in the anchorage.

Displacement approx. 45,000 pounds
LOA 42’ (45’ with dinghy in davits)
Beam 12.5’
Draft 4’10” (half capacity)

Last hauled in September 2021 for bottom paint (two coats Sea Hawk Sharkskin), complete topside painting (two coats Interlux Brightside), and zincs.

Accommodations

Up one step from the aft deck is the pilot house, cruising central for captain and crew of Nightfall. The 13 fixed windows provide an abundance of light and a 360 degree view. A long L-shaped settee with storage below and a solid slab pine table easily accommodates four people. Opposite the settee to port is the chart table with two drawers and locker below. Forward is a comfortable helm chair with console/counter that runs across the forward end of the pilot house for electronics and navigation instruments. The starboard counter lifts providing chart storage. Fishing pole storage is overhead.
The main salon, galley and master stateroom are down four steps from the pilot house. There are three large fixed windows on each side of the cabin truck bringing in light and facilitating a view. The salon table and settee are to port and the galley is to starboard. The settee is L-shaped with book shelves at the aft end of the settee. Easily accessed storage is below all of the settees. The main salon is heated with a Dickinson Antarctic diesel heater requiring no power to operate. The day head is aft of the settee and allows access to the engine room.

The large galley is U-shaped with solid yellow cedar counters. The three burner Force 10 cook stove w/oven is located in the forward counter with four drawers below the counter and one long drawer under the stove. The drawers are a unique design and can be accessed from either the front or the aft side of the counter. A small chart table folds down from the forward side of this counter. The deep stainless steel sink is set in the outboard counter, and there are both hot and cold pressure water and a fresh water foot pump. There is a locker below the sink. The freezer is in the corner of the aft counter with refrigerator below the counter. The refrigeration is both AC and DC powered. Two large overhead lockers are above the aft section with lots of room for dishes, glassware and stores. The light from the butterfly hatch in the middle of the salon adds to the brightness of the interior.

The master stateroom is forward most in the boat. The large v-berth has custom mattresses, and there is ample storage for clothing and personal items. A built in dresser is aft of the berth on the starboard side. There are five drawers and hanging locker in the dresser. Four drawers and two large lockers are under the aft end of the v-berth. A shelf is located over the forward end of the berth. The ensuite head/shower is to port and aft of the v-berth. There is a sink with hot and cold pressure water, shower and storage cabinet with mirrored front.

All floors in the living space are end grain old growth yellow cedar. Ventilation is provided by six opening ports, two opening overhead hatches and three Hella two-speed fans. The engine room is vented with a large hatch that also provides a second means of entrance. There are LED reading lights and spot lighting fixtures throughout the boat with two tubular lights over the galley counters.

The full size engine room is located under the pilothouse and entered through the aft head or cockpit hatch. Access is available to all sides of the engine with the aft section of the engine room providing ample storage for engine spares and supplies, batteries, fuel tanks, inverter, solar charger, and steering gear.

One of Nightfall’s attributes that stands out from almost all other cruising boats is her powerful hydraulic drum windlass. Nightfall carries a 55kg (110 pound) Bruce anchor on 100’ of NEW 3/8” chain attached to 350’ of stainless cable. The chain and cable roll into the deck mounted drum, keeping seawater, mud, and smell from entering the boat. Both anchoring and anchor retrieve can be accomplished in half the time of a conventional system. The oversized anchor, chain and cable contribute to peace of mind on dark, blustery nights.

Electronics and Navigation

ComNav 2001 Autopilot 
Furuno Depth Sounder
Furuno 1830 radar
7” CompuNav compass
iPad with Navionics Charts
Icom VHF (with GPS for DSC distress calling) NEW
Standard LH5 Loud Hailer with NEW horn
ComNav rudder angle indicator
Raymarine wind instrument

Electrical Systems

12 volt DC system with 100 amp charger
110 volt AC system
Ample 105 amp alternator and voltage regulator
Magnum Energy 2000w pure sine-wave inverter and smart battery charger
Heart Echo charger for start battery
Four L16 house batteries (800 amps)
4-D start battery
E-Meter battery monitor
30 amp shore power with (NEW) SmartPlug
Two 190w solar panels
Tri Star MPPT solar charger with remote panel

Mechanical Systems

135 HP John Deere/Lugger L6414D marine diesel (5850 hours)
New motor mounts
Four bladed 32” propeller on 2-1/4” shaft
Two 500 gallon diesel tanks
Tank Tender fuel and water tank monitoring system
My-T-Gen Kubota DC (12V) diesel genset (32 hours)
Wagner hydraulic steering
Aqualarm cooling water alarm and NEW warning panel
Single lever Morse control
Fuel filtration system (Racor 500 and 900)
Fuel transfer system
40 gallon Day tank with fuel prefilter for engine/generator fuel supply
Halon fire suppression system
Dripless shaft gland
Trolling valve
Engine heat exchanger
Cabin/pilothouse hydronic heaters
Emergency tiller
Torrid Marine 10 gallon water heater (NEW)
600 gallons fresh water in two stainless steel tanks
40 gallon grey water tank

Deck and Hull

Steel hull (1/4”) and deck (with ¾” teak overlay in cockpit)
Wood panel and timber house
Mast with stabilizing sail and jib (NEW mast step)
Paravane stabilizers with both fish and flopper stoppers
Large rudder for improved maneuverability (spare rudder)
Hydraulic drum anchor windlass
50kg (110 pound) Bruce anchor
100’ of 3/8” galvanized chain (NEW) with 350’ of 3/8” stainless steel cable
Spreader lights
LED navigation lights (NEW)
Dinghy davits
10’ Achilles Aluminum RIB
15hp Mercury outboard motor

Additional Equipment

Epirb
LifeSling overboard rescue system
Windshield wipers (3)
Fantail awning
Screens for all ports, windows and door
Rail mounted BBQ
Rail mounted downrigger

Not included
All personal items, artwork and books

 

[Northern Spy]

another actually interesting boat:



https://skagit.craigslist.org/boa/d/oak-harbor-38-steel-pilothouse-trawler/7543706902.html

Wow. Pretty darn close to my perfect boat.

 

[Mako]

Something doesn’t add up right, though. 1 gph is about 20 hp. That engine generates 20 hp while idling at 609rpm. They say that is at 1350 rpm. No way.

 

[rslifkin]

Something doesn’t add up right, though. 1 gph is about 20 hp. That engine generates 20 hp while idling at 609rpm. They say that is at 1350 rpm. No way.

Just because the engine can generate a given amount of power at a given RPM doesn't mean it's actually being loaded that heavily.

 

[backinblue]

I'm sure it's efficient although 1.1 gph at 7 knts sounds a little optomistic. But it's a boat ad, nobody expects 100% truth and accuracy.

 

[Jeff F]

Something doesn’t add up right, though. 1 gph is about 20 hp. That engine generates 20 hp while idling at 609rpm. They say that is at 1350 rpm. No way.

I think if you look at a prop demand curve for a 135hp 2600 rpm motor you'll find that 1400 rpm calls for ~20 HP. Sounds perfectly plausible to me.

 

[C lectric]

Those curves indicate what the engine is CAPABLE of producing at any given rpm without going into overload.

That does NOT mean the engine will or must use X amount of fuel at any given rpm as that is determined by the hull and the load the hull presents to the engine.

 

[HTurner]

A duck for sale...


https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2001-diesel-duck-mcnalley-build-8594323/

 

[Al]

I'm sure it's efficient although 1.1 gph at 7 knts sounds a little optomistic. But it's a boat ad, nobody expects 100% truth and accuracy.

I tend to agree with your assumption, my boat is powered by a Perkins 4-236 and I turn a 2:1 at 1400 RPM. 6.5 knots, Due to boat design WLL, weight, that said, the fuel burn is 1.2 + GPH. a fuel burn of 1.5-1.75 would be my guess studying the assumed hull/power combination more actuate. As you say, it is an advertisement to sell the boat.

 

[Mako]

Interesting engine-room

First time I've seen this... a varnished hardwood floor in the engine room. If that Gardner weren't painted like a Miami crack house, then it could be a beautiful art museum down there. Heck, I'd put oil paintings on the wall.
https://www.devalk.nl/en/yachtbrokerage/450756/WARREN-MEWS-TRAWLER-16.50.html

 

[Simi 60]

78 ft of Japanese Steely for $700k AUD ask $467k usd

I got spec sheets and more pics sent through, looks pretty tidy.
18,000 litres of diesel
2 X 11 litre 6 cyl Yanmar @ 250hp each
But fuel burn was off-putting @ 65 litre/ hour at 9 knots.

https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/custom/278888


Original line drawing for her
Note the car storage.

 

[Captain Pontoon]

Interesting Boats

Similar 60 sent picture and plans for a Japenese 78’ with 2 diesels of 250 HP using 65 Lts = 17.5 gallons per hour. That is as interesting as the boat. Probably means boat is under powered. For it’s size it seems in range.It is a beauty. Loved the four diagrams.

 

[Simi 60]

Similar 60 sent picture and plans for a Japenese 78’ with 2 diesels of 250 HP using 65 Lts = 17.5 gallons per hour. That is as interesting as the boat. Probably means boat is under powered. For it’s size it seems in range.It is a beauty. Loved the four diagrams.

Fuel burn surprised me
Us @ 60 ft and 60 tonne with a single 14 litre nta855 Cummins burn 15lph @ 7.5kn

I was thinking the blue beasty with two smaller engines but more waterline length would do similar X 2 so around 30lph for 8.5 knots - not 60+lph.

Once again my thoughts on an upgrade have been foiled.
What we have while not "quite" the perfect boat for us is looking more perfect than most.

 

[Adopo]

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1980-custom-67-converted-mfv-charter-cruise-vessel-8593639/

 

[Adopo]

a few more...

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. A. $1/2 mil for a 45 year old wooden vessel???? Nice boat but holy crapola. Are you sure the Brit's haven't legalized hallucinogenics?

 

[Adopo]

Greetings,
Mr. A. $1/2 mil for a 45 year old wooden vessel???? Nice boat but holy crapola. Are you sure the Brit's haven't legalized hallucinogenics?

I know right but unusual boat. Can you image the upkeep?