Interesting boats

[DDW]

Or someone else? ;-)

 

[backinblue]

Or someone else? ;-)

Seems like it.

 

[Art]

Few thousand workers aboard the "Ford" Aircraft Carrier. 750 toilets aboard. Any one [1] toilet clogged = ALL toilets can no longer be used - until - a $400,000 per toilet-clog acid-cleanout is completed. Who the F designed that mess and who in H gave final stamp of approval to have that septic nightmare on the Ford?

See 7:30 thru 7:50 on – from post # 12341…

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/navy-just-deployed-13-billion-022218318.html

 

[Northern Spy]

Few thousand workers aboard the "Ford" Aircraft Carrier. 750 toilets aboard. Any one [1] toilet clogged = ALL toilets can no longer be used - until - a $400,000 per toilet-clog acid-cleanout is completed. Who the F designed that mess and who in H gave final stamp of approval to have that septic nightmare on the Ford?

See 7:30 thru 7:50 on – from post # 12341…

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/navy-just-deployed-13-billion-022218318.html

Uh-huh...

Sure...

Sounds like a case of "it's on the internet so it must be true".

I did find it interesting that Yahoo still exists though.

(Ex US Navy A-ganger)

 

[Simi 60]

Uh-huh...

Sure...

Sounds like a case of "it's on the internet so it must be true".

I did find it interesting that Yahoo still exists though.

(Ex US Navy A-ganger)

Back in 2020 as well

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a31929628/uss-ford-toilet/

 

[hollywood8118]

And to think years ago everybody crapped on the USAF for a few $ 500 toilet seats.


I bet they at least worked all the time!
Hollywood

 

[Adopo]

I think I have seen this posted the last time it was for sale, heck I might have posted it. Why do I like boats with "crows nest"? And canoe sterns too.


https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1988-kadey--krogen-passagemaking-ph-trawler-8516142/

 

[Adopo]

a few more...

 

[Adopo]

and a few more. Interesting small station up top. One man show up there!

 

[CaptTom]

OMG I'm drooling! Anybody got a half-million to spare? I'd be sure it went to a good cause!

 

[Mako]

Crows nests and canoe sterns - gotta love it! Beautiful styling on the exterior, but the interior feels very cramped and compartmented. Or is that just the photos making it look that way?

 

[socalrider]

Crows nests and canoe sterns - gotta love it! Beautiful styling on the exterior, but the interior feels very cramped and compartmented. Or is that just the photos making it look that way?

She is a beaut. Quite a high price though, no?

Interesting to compare to this Cheoy Lee 55 at 40% of the price. Not as much range but 3x the interior room and what looks like a vastly better engine room.

 

[PierreR]

I built this boat in the early 2000's and my parents did half the loop in it in 2006. I just sold it to my nephew. I just signed a purchase agreement on a Hatteras 42 LRC
I always had lots of people taking photos of the boat. The boat is powered by a Sabb H2 with controllable pitch propeller and a 4 hp Lewmar bow thruster. Not show here it also is equipped with paravanes. 26', 60 gallon diesel, 70 gal fresh water, 27 gallon holding, displacement 9,500 lb

 

[Art]

TOOOO Cool! Welcome to TF and thanks for sharing!! - Art

 

[slowgoesit]

Few thousand workers aboard the "Ford" Aircraft Carrier. 750 toilets aboard. Any one [1] toilet clogged = ALL toilets can no longer be used - until - a $400,000 per toilet-clog acid-cleanout is completed. Who the F designed that mess and who in H gave final stamp of approval to have that septic nightmare on the Ford?
See 7:30 thru 7:50 on – from post # 12341…
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/navy-just-deployed-13-billion-022218318.html

Art if you'd read the article Simi posted, (yours didn't even MENTION toilets), as well as others readily available on the internet you'd have noted that the $400,000 price tag was PER USE (described as treating the entire system), not PER TOILET. So as outrageous as the cost/situation is, there was no need to inflate the cost by 750 times as you did when you stated PER TOILET. (the per use 400k is to treat the entire system, NOT per toilet)
Just my $15.00 worth ($0.02 inflated 750 times)

 

[Art]

Art if you'd read the article Simi posted, (yours didn't even MENTION toilets), as well as others readily available on the internet you'd have noted that the $400,000 price tag was PER USE (described as treating the entire system), not PER TOILET. So as outrageous as the cost/situation is, there was no need to inflate the cost by 750 times as you did when you stated PER TOILET. (the per use 400k is to treat the entire system, NOT per toilet)
Just my $15.00 worth ($0.02 inflated 750 times)

Either I explained it confusingly or you did not understand what I said/meant. As I recall... According to the video... if one toilet gets clogged then no toilet can work any longer until the entire system is cleared. Therefore, the $400K mentioned on the video to fix a clog affects all 750 toilets... not $400K per toilet. But - who gives a shat... pun intended!!

 

[Adopo]

Either I explained it confusingly or you did not understand what I said/meant. As I recall... According to the video... if one toilet gets clogged then no toilet can work any longer until the entire system is cleared. Therefore, the $400K mentioned on the video to fix a clog affects all 750 toilets... not $400K per toilet. But - who gives a shat... pun intended!!

Azamara recently told us the same thing. Clog your toilet and you are screwing up the entire line.

 

[Mako]

I've never given thought to having redundancy in heads, but I suppose that for those who stray afar, you need redundancy in everything, not just propulsion and GPS's.

Per @Adopo's comment above, I don't think 2 heads should ever share a waste line. One blackwater tank sure, but not the fecal lines.

 

[HTurner]

Azamara recently told us the same thing. Clog your toilet and you are screwing up the entire line.

They should have bought Blakes Lavac. As their website states... “The world’s most reliable sea toilet” New improved low profile Lavac Popular Toilet. Vacuum flushing, no moving parts and exceptional reliability make this the marine toilet that others try to match.


Have on on my current boat and have had them on two previous boats, I highly recommend.

 

[AlaskaProf]

Uh-huh...

Sure...

Sounds like a case of "it's on the internet so it must be true".

I did find it interesting that Yahoo still exists though.

(Ex US Navy A-ganger)

Ah! Progress. The troopship on which I spent 42 days in 1962 and '63 had two long stainless steel troughs with a dozen or more toilet seats on each bridged over a constant flow of seawater. Simple and effective.
This was for the enlisted swine, of course. I'm sure the officers had porcelain.

 

[HTurner]

Welcome to the USS North Carolina...

 

[BruceK]

Azamara recently told us the same thing. Clog your toilet and you are screwing up the entire line.

Giving the lie to the old adage "Two heads are better than one".
We were on first name terms with the plumber on HAL`s Noordam" We did nothing to block the head, it was poor design and a constant issue on the ship.

 

[DBL]

Alaska Expedition - Converted Crab Boat

I just spent 5 weeks in Alaska as chief mate on an interesting vessel. She was built for crab service in 1968, went through a government buyout program and then converted to a 12-passenger expedition vessel doing 7 to 10 day trips. The COD specifically prohibits fishing from the vessel, in any form, even for recreation.

She's 130 FT LOA, draws nearly 14 FT and has a single 12 Cylinder Mitsubishi diesel that cruises at 1100 RPM. The crane is a carryover from crab fishing and is used to launch and retrieve the RIB, kayaks and aluminum rescue boat. The anchor weighs 1,500 pounds, with two shots of 6 inch chain and a wire for the rest of the length.

Operationally, we anchored everywhere we went (usually in 50 to 100 feet of water), since most places were in the wilderness and there were no docks. Lots of running at night and anchoring with no other vessels around. On turnaround days, the passengers were brought out in the RIB. Food, garbage, supplies were all handled the same way. She has enormous fuel tanks, so we didn't add any fuel in the 2,500 miles we travelled.

The 6 cabins and the salon in the middle are awkward looking in profile, but their utility is awesome. Windows give a 300 degree view.

I've been around boats all my life, but converting a boat like this for passenger service just never occurred to me. Personally, the combination of standing watches and managing the boat side of shore excursions was hard work, but I learned a lot. Sergius Narrows at midnight in the rain on a 350-ton single screw vessel is no joke. Glaciers and small icebergs are awesome. Brown bears, sea lions and Dall's porpoises abound, and it was great to see them.

I'm not promoting anything - just thought you might like to see something different that had a big impact on me.

 

[Art]

WOW! Thanks for that greatly interesting post.

A few weeks ago we were in Alaska aboard the Ruby Princess... your 3rd photo looks like one of the glaciers we visited.

 

[hollywood8118]

I just spent 5 weeks in Alaska as chief mate on an interesting vessel. She was built for crab service in 1968, went through a government buyout program and then converted to a 12-passenger expedition vessel doing 7 to 10 day trips. The COD specifically prohibits fishing from the vessel, in any form, even for recreation.

She's 130 FT LOA, draws nearly 14 FT and has a single 12 Cylinder Mitsubishi diesel that cruises at 1100 RPM. The crane is a carryover from crab fishing and is used to launch and retrieve the RIB, kayaks and aluminum rescue boat. The anchor weighs 1,500 pounds, with two shots of 6 inch chain and a wire for the rest of the length.

Operationally, we anchored everywhere we went (usually in 50 to 100 feet of water), since most places were in the wilderness and there were no docks. Lots of running at night and anchoring with no other vessels around. On turnaround days, the passengers were brought out in the RIB. Food, garbage, supplies were all handled the same way. She has enormous fuel tanks, so we didn't add any fuel in the 2,500 miles we travelled.

The 6 cabins and the salon in the middle are awkward looking in profile, but their utility is awesome. Windows give a 300 degree view.

I've been around boats all my life, but converting a boat like this for passenger service just never occurred to me. Personally, the combination of standing watches and managing the boat side of shore excursions was hard work, but I learned a lot. Sergius Narrows at midnight in the rain on a 350-ton single screw vessel is no joke. Glaciers and small icebergs are awesome. Brown bears, sea lions and Dall's porpoises abound, and it was great to see them.

I'm not promoting anything - just thought you might like to see something different that had a big impact on me.

Even zooming in I cannot read the name of the boat, what's her name?
HOLLYWOOD

 

[DBL]

Kruzof Explorer

 

[Simi 60]

Ada Hardy

60ft Timber converted Taswegian Cray boat
Been around the world
MASSIVE 8L3B Gardner in her belly - 8L3B is 24 litres vs 8LXB at 13.5 litres

Spotted her on AIS up the Fitzroy river at a prospective boat yard
Watched her come down and into Moreton bay
Would love to hear from the owner as to what that boat yard is like


Webpage for her here
https://www.trawlertraveller.com/

 

[AlaskaProf]

Welcome to the USS North Carolina...

Yeah. Like that times 5 without partitions.

 

[OldDan1943]

Yeah. Like that times 5 without partitions.

aim carefully

 

[hollywood8118]

Ada Hardy

60ft Timber converted Taswegian Cray boat
Been around the world
MASSIVE 8L3B Gardner in her belly - 8L3B is 24 litres vs 8LXB at 13.5 litres

Spotted her on AIS up the Fitzroy river at a prospective boat yard
Watched her come down and into Moreton bay
Would love to hear from the owner as to what that boat yard is like


Webpage for her here
https://www.trawlertraveller.com/

Are there difficulties insuring a timber boat down there in the southern hemisphere?.
There are a few nice ones in the states but insurance is a pain in the butt.
HOLLYWOOD