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05-11-2011, 10:43 AM
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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Getting rid of the wood
I have a couple of friends who have removed the teak railings from there boat and replaced it with* UHMW, Starboard*or other forms of plastic.
Or do you like the look or the work of sanding and varnishing?
SD
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05-11-2011, 11:02 AM
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
Vessel Model: 1974 34' Marine Trader Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,775
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
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skipperdude wrote:
I have a couple of friends who have removed the teak railings from there boat and replaced it with* UHMW, Starboard*or other forms of plastic.
Or do you like the look or the work of sanding and varnishing?
SD
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Are the plastic replacements available already shaped or does the boat owner do that?*
I'm not sure how my little Craftsman router table will handle all that plastic.
I ask because I'd rather replace than sand and paint the damn wood.
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05-11-2011, 11:14 AM
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
I*bought a large sheet 8'X 10' of 3/4 in. Cut it into strips with a table saw.
A friend of mine did the same. He*first cut it into two large L shaped pieces with a jig saw and used a router to round over the edges. They fit across the rear corners with only one seem. The stuff comes in UV stable colors.He chose blue to match his trim paint.
You never have to mess with it again the surface is even pebbled to make it non slip.
SD
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05-11-2011, 01:18 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,482
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Wood belongs exclusively to the interior.
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05-11-2011, 01:29 PM
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Roger Roger.
That is my boat. I even used my own wood. We cut down a nice big birch and milled the molding*using a*table saw and a router table for all the trim work.
No wood outside the door,
SD
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05-11-2011, 02:24 PM
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Guru
City: Toms River
Vessel Name: V E N T U R E
Vessel Model: 1996 36' Island Gypsy Classic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,329
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
BaltimoreLurker wrote:
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I ask because I'd rather replace than sand and paint the damn wood.
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******** Balt, If the rails are teak, strip them down once and don't refinsh them.
******** Once and while clean em up with water and a Scotchbrite Pad.
*********Thats about as maintenance free as they get.
******** JohnP
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05-11-2011, 02:26 PM
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Guru
City: Toms River
Vessel Name: V E N T U R E
Vessel Model: 1996 36' Island Gypsy Classic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,329
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
markpierce wrote:
Wood belongs exclusively to the interior.
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******** Mark,* Impressive woodwork on your Coot!* Will be a great source of pride!
******* Cheers.** JohnP
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05-11-2011, 02:39 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Home Port: Buck's Harbor, Maine
Vessel Name: "Emily Anne"
Vessel Model: 2001 Island Gypsy 32 Europa (Hull #146)
Join Date: Sep 2008
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
******** Balt, If the rails are teak, strip them down once and don't refinsh them.
******** Once and while clean em up with water and a Scotchbrite Pad.
*********Thats about as maintenance free as they get.
******** JohnP
Been varnishing/Cetoling the stuff for years. Your comment on stripping and letting them go au naturel has a certain amount of appeal. May seriously consider it next time the cap rails need to be stripped and refinished. On the other hand, I am like a crow: I like shiny things (as well as "boat projects" to keep me busy). I may be a bit of a masochist but, then, aren't most of us boat owners. Beat me with another $thousand PLEASE.
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05-11-2011, 02:54 PM
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Guru
City: Atlanta
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4550 Pilothouse
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,630
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
I am having a hard time picturing plastic or starboard handrails. Do you have some pictures?? I kind of wish my Monk had lest exterior teak...but then I note how pretty she looks and well....then I like the teak! Even my mast is teak!
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05-11-2011, 03:08 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
MarkPierce wrote:
Wood belongs exclusively to the interior.
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Quote:
Come on Mark! What's wrong with a little exterior wood?
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05-11-2011, 03:43 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,482
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Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
SeaHorse II wrote:Come on Mark! What's wrong with a little exterior wood?
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*Been there and done that.
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 11th of May 2011 04:44:25 PM
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05-11-2011, 04:01 PM
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Grand Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,516
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
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dwhatty wrote:JohnP wrote:
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******** Balt, If the rails are teak, strip them down once and don't refinsh them.
******** Once and while clean em up with water and a Scotchbrite Pad.
*********Thats about as maintenance free as they get.
******** JohnP
Been varnishing/Cetoling the stuff for years. Your comment on stripping and letting them go au naturel has a certain amount of appeal. May seriously consider it next time the cap rails need to be stripped and refinished. On the other hand, I am like a crow: I like shiny things (as well as "boat projects" to keep me busy). I may be a bit of a masochist but, then, aren't most of us boat owners. Beat me with another $thousand PLEASE.
*Another trick for teak, if you can manage it, is to hose it down with sea water.* It gets a very nice grey color then.* In the NW, bare teak tends to get kind of spotty from mold, which doesn't happen with the sea water treatment.
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05-11-2011, 04:08 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,482
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Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
JohnP wrote:
******** Mark,* Impressive woodwork on your Coot!* Will be a great source of pride!
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*Thanks, John,* The craftsmen at Seahorse do things pretty.
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 11th of May 2011 05:09:22 PM
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05-11-2011, 05:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 182
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
I just added some wood!
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05-11-2011, 08:14 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,188
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Can you guys say "Resale value"?
OK, once your boat has depreciated right out, a change to starboard or, oh why not abs pipe? wouldn't change the value much.
Walt, how much do you think you could get for your boat with Starboard trim bits where all of that gorgeous wood is now?
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05-11-2011, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 182
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Keith
I don't think in terms of "resale value", rather I'm focused on "Intrinsic value" and "pride of ownership"; However I also believe that when and if that time comes in a hopefully distant future, that this focus does translate into "resale value". regardless whether it does or not, it creates real value for me. I have actually used starboard; its a good functional material = in my case at a barbeque station, but I find value in (albeit limited) use of wood.
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05-12-2011, 07:57 AM
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Guru
City: Toms River
Vessel Name: V E N T U R E
Vessel Model: 1996 36' Island Gypsy Classic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,329
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
RED wrote:
I just added some wood!
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*Beautiful Nameboards!*** "Wood is Good".**** JohnP
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05-12-2011, 08:00 AM
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Guru
City: Toms River
Vessel Name: V E N T U R E
Vessel Model: 1996 36' Island Gypsy Classic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,329
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
Quote:
SeaHorse II wrote:Come on Mark! What's wrong with a little exterior wood?
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* Walt,* Seahorse's teak looks great do you maintain it yourself?
Did she come with those S.S. cowl vents?*** Looks awesome!* JohnP
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05-12-2011, 08:10 AM
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
Vessel Model: 1974 34' Marine Trader Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,775
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
This thread has taken an interesting twist.* There's an earlier thread where I commented that I'm letting the varnish flake off on it's own, and I'll just go natural.* I was told that is a big mistake as trim teak is cut differently than deck teak and can't be left bare as it will quickly become all black and nasty looking. Now I'm confused!
Well finished wood is like a very beautiful woman.* Wonderful to look at.* Maybe even worth renting.* But the maintenance is just too much.
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05-12-2011, 08:21 AM
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Guru
City: Everett Wa
Vessel Name: Eagle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 58 pilot house
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,919
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RE: Getting rid of the wood
We bought our trawler because of the teak decks, railing and trim.* They are not that hard and time consuming but you have to maintain them.* 95% of the teak decks problems is because the owner did not maintain them as they give plenty a warning and over long periods of time.* As for the vanishing its a lot better than mowing/weeding/gardening and painting a dirt house.
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Most thing that are worth having/keeping requires maintenance/up keep.*Its the teak wood that give the Eagle is appeal/character.*
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