Ok, sorry, a bit off topic, but Walt, that boat is one I grant you the step in the sheer does the business, and looks absolutely right....and there are others, the Nordys spring to mind. Shes a beaut, so glad you got it working. Could it have been a security thing, say from a Firefox update? That browser, which is what you use, does get a bit pernickety security-wise sometimes, like blocking updates etc....so maybe something like that....?