Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-12-2020, 02:09 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
ColonyCove's Avatar
 
City: NC
Vessel Name: The Blue Comet
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs/ NT32
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 133
Bought with no survey.

Bought our trawler without a survey last month. Owned enough boats over the years to give it a pretty good looking over. I also "like the cut of the owner's jib" in salty language, and we made the deal on a handshake. Made a four day delivery trip to bring her home ourselves. Every system on boat operated well. This is not an endorsement for such a tactic, I've used surveyors before and have nothing against them. A risk? Yeah, life is a risk, perhaps even more so on a boat.
__________________
Advertisement

ColonyCove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 02:22 PM   #2
Guru
 
rgano's Avatar
 
City: Southport, Florida
Country: USA
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,859
Send a message via Skype™ to rgano
Any issues with getting insurance without an official survey?
__________________

__________________
Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
rgano is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 02:55 PM   #3
Guru
 
City: Hughesville, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Branwen
Vessel Model: Hatteras 48 LRC
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 587
Were brokers involved? I'm glad that it worked out well for you. Let us know if you have any lessons learned or resources other than your previous boat buying/owning experiences and skills at judging character. Maybe you could write a book.

Greg.
GregBrannon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 03:49 PM   #4
Guru
 
Lepke's Avatar
 
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Country: US
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,911
I always do a better job than a surveyor, especially in wood boats. They look at the gingerbread and obvious and miss everything else. I only get a survey for insurance.
Lepke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 04:23 PM   #5
Guru
 
Comodave's Avatar
 
City: Au Gres, MI
Country: US
Vessel Name: Never Say Never
Vessel Model: President 41 DC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 8,506
Yes, you may still have to get a survey for the insurance company. However glad you had a good delivery trip and congrats on your new boat.
__________________
Boat Nut:
If you are one there is no explanation necessary.
If you arenít one, there is no explanation possible.
Comodave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 07:46 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
ColonyCove's Avatar
 
City: NC
Vessel Name: The Blue Comet
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs/ NT32
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 133
Insurance company asked for nothing but their $$. No brokers involved on either side. Old school transaction for sure. I'm certainly not pushing this method as best practice, but there is certainly more than one way to play let's make a deal.
ColonyCove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 07:56 PM   #7
Guru
 
Pete Meisinger's Avatar
 
City: Oconto, WI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,377
Thats exactly how I bought my boat, seven years ago.

Have I spent money on it ? Of course! but the previous owner was an honest man and the boat was everything he said it would be. I didn't even have the luxury of a sea trial, it was Feb. when we looked at the boat, it was shrink wrapped.

A six day, 300 mile maiden voyage/sea trial/shake down cruise was a wonderful experience. When we got home we didn't want to leave the boat so we spent two more days just relaxing at our new marina.

pete
Pete Meisinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2020, 08:54 PM   #8
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 9,015
Congratulations on the new boat! Nice when things work that way, like it was just ment to be.

Ted
__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2020, 01:01 AM   #9
Veteran Member
 
Jmarsh203's Avatar
 
City: All over
Country: Where my boat is
Vessel Name: Chapter II
Vessel Model: 1972 42 foot Alloy Mfg
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 67
Did the same thing with my boat, which was my first boat lol but I’m a marine diesel mechanic and was a coded welder as well as a welding inspector so I was uniquely qualified to inspect my own boat.
Jmarsh203 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2020, 01:52 AM   #10
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 11,223
Insurers here have an age qualification for requiring a survey. It was <15 years, now maybe <10. Varies between insurers. I`m glad the OP got a good boat on his own survey.

A marina neighbour, "owned lots of boats, don`t need a survey" just spent $30K + repairing soft wet foredecks of a 2008 40ft trawler. The deck was composed of teak blocks in a fiberglass sandwich with no resin/ lamination between them. Beautiful repair job. The brand usually have teak side and cockpit decks, no exposed teak fwd which in our sun makes good sense.
__________________
BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2020, 09:55 AM   #11
TF Site Team
 
City: Westerly, RI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,401
Typically an insurance survey is less money (and less detailed) than a pre-purchase survey. If equipped with a rubber mallet and a moisture meter (and enough knowledge) I think many could successfully survey a boat themselves. You really do need to be somewhat beyond aware of basic marine specs, particularly for electrical.

I am still a fan of getting an engine survey and oil analysis. That is beyond my aptitude.
__________________

Shrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×