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Old 01-29-2020, 11:24 AM   #21
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Old 01-29-2020, 11:33 AM   #22
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I tend to find those that use their boats less are the ones that are lazy about maintenance regardless of single vs twin.

Personally, I like twins for maneuverability, but depending on the boat and intended cruising grounds, a single with good prop protection can have some advantages.

I'm fine with long distance travel in a single, as a situation that forces an engine shutdown when you're miles from anything to hit is rarely an emergency. You typically have some time to sort the situation out, etc. However, in crowded waters, loss of an engine can become an emergency very quickly and dropping an anchor immediately isn't always enough to keep the situation from becoming sketchy. So for use in inshore waters, I'm more inclined to want twins, where if one has to be shut down the boat can still be maneuvered to a point where it's safe to work on the problem.
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Old 01-29-2020, 11:47 AM   #23
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Wifey B: About the same chance of resolving these debates as issues being resolved on talk radio.
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Old 01-29-2020, 12:02 PM   #24
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single or twin

Yes, a decision has been made, (envelope please) and the winner is SINGLE. I trust this settles the issue once and for all time.
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Yes, a decision has been made, (envelope please) and the winner is SINGLE. I trust this settles the issue once and for all time.
The issue is settled only until one realizes that Fleming makes a very nice boat. Or you want to buy a Nordhavn, Hampton, Offshore, Horizon, Outer Reef, catamaran or a larger KK.
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Old 01-29-2020, 12:36 PM   #26
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Lots of people buy twins.
Twins cost more money.
No doubt twins are better.
Case closed.
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I thought the debate had been resolved and the winner being a single with a capable get-home and thrusters.

Such set up will have the redundancy and maneuverability of twins and the prop protection of a single. Although many twins have keels that hang lower than their props.
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I thought the debate had been resolved and the winner being a single with a capable get-home and thrusters. .
In other words a vessel with two propulsion systems.
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Old 01-29-2020, 02:13 PM   #29
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Mr. s. TWO propulsion systems???? What a novel idea!


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In other words a vessel with two propulsion systems.
Yes. But not twins. Not even fraternal. More like big brother and little brother.
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If we own a single, we say single. Twins...twins. The circle is complete.
The more interesting question is what is the answer of the guy who has not yet bought.
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I thought the debate had been resolved and the winner being a single with a capable get-home and thrusters.

Such set up will have the redundancy and maneuverability of twins and the prop protection of a single. Although many twins have keels that hang lower than their props.

No, no, no. The ideal is a twin, but either diesel-electric or diesel-hydraulic drive and with protected props (either skegs or just a keel deeper than the props). That would give the best of all worlds, in that you don't lose any maneuverability with an engine shut down, you just lose half of your power.
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No, no, no. The ideal is a twin, but either diesel-electric or diesel-hydraulic drive and with protected props (either skegs or just a keel deeper than the props). That would give the best of all worlds, in that you don't lose any maneuverability with an engine shut down, you just lose half of your power.
How much loss of efficiency do you experience in such a situation?
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How much loss of efficiency do you experience in such a situation?

Good question. That would depend on how efficient you could make the drive system compared to conventional transmissions. Plus any gains from being able to shut one engine down and run the other at higher load (potentially giving better efficiency) when full power isn't needed.
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Yes. But not twins. Not even fraternal. More like big brother and little brother.
If one was halfway to, say, Hi, would the wing engine have enough endurance to do the job, or are they strictly for shorter trips.
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I will check back in a day when there are 500 replies and still no consensus.
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If one was halfway to, say, Hi, would the wing engine have enough endurance to do the job, or are they strictly for shorter trips.
I don't have a get-home system, so this question would be better answered by others here that do, like Twistedtree. But I don't see a reason why you can't continue an ocean crossing on a properly sized wing engine. You will be slower especially in rough weather, but better than being dead on the water.
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Real men don't need no stinkin' twins!
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Aha, that would be a computer virus! I recall the "Corona" brand typewriter (remember typewriters?). Spooky.
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