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Old 08-03-2020, 06:19 PM   #1
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Anchor Scope Cheat Sheet

Hello,

The PO had this anchor scope cheat sheet laminated to a side wall in the anchor well. It was getting raged but he emailed me his original copy.

I just thought I would share it to see if anyone else may need one or have one to share.

Not sure this one is the best but its up for grabs. I have the excel file as well if interested.

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Old 08-03-2020, 06:36 PM   #2
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That's nice but likely way too short intervals. What method is used to mark the rode, and are the first five still visible?
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:06 PM   #3
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That table looks like something my cousin would do. His marking system is so complicated it takes an entire page to explain. Only he understands it. He says it is simple binary code.

I mark every 30 feet, red, white, blue then repeat. I guess we use what works for us.
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I'm not sure why a cheat sheet is required for calculating scope. After determining depth at high tide, add 8 feet for the distance from water to roller and multiply by scope desired in my head while at the bow. Let out required chain.

My chain is painted every 30 feet and repeats at the end of a shot with two marks. The mid point is painted yellow. I have it so markings will make sense when the chain is reversed every other year. We rarely have 200' out so the reversed markings past 210' is seldom an issue.

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This is too complicated.
I use numerous electrical tape rings around my nylon line rode to estimate scope.
The first 100’ is obvious as it’s a 100” section of one size smaller line shackled to the main rode .. 5/8ths” Brait. That’ well over 400’ total length.

So I know exactly where the “100’ mark” is. Then the marks w various numbers of e-tape every 25’ to 200’. One, two and three rings of tape. If I use over 200’ of rode length accuracy is a bit diminished but so is the need for preciseness. I rely mostly on simplicity to easily stay mentally connected to how much rode I’ve got out. Estimating scope becomes easier that way. Of course I need to run the rode in and out manually. Just three marks on the rode.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:27 PM   #7
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I had only 2 red painted sections. 50 feet and 100 feet.
I never needed anything else.
I guess that’s because anchoring is not an exact science.
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I had only 2 red painted sections. 50 feet and 100 feet.
I never needed anything else.
I guess that’s because anchoring is not an exact science.
Yep.

All chain. Have 3ft of poly woven through the links every 50ft.

I put out scope to the nearest 50ft, rounded up. I can count to four in my head (most days).

Makes things simple.
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I count the seconds, about three feet of chain a second. ... Haven't adjusted the FloScan, but multiply readings by 70 percent. It exercises the brain cells.
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bright orange paint...every 25' here.
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The simplest method I have found after five years living on the hook 80% of the time is to use zip ties. Take a 6-8 inch tie and tie it at 25 feet, then two ties at 50 feet, three ties at 75 feet and four at 100 feet. At 100 feet I start over with one tie. Very rarely do we have out more then 100 feet of chain. So, easy math, no painting, no codes to figure out. The zip ties will run through the gypsy with no issues, just get the 6-8 inch ones. And don't cut off the "tales", it makes them easier to see and count. Anyway, this worked for us.
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Easiest!
Not really,
There's buying it, cutting holes, drilling hole in chainwheel, adding magnets, wiring........

Easiest is cheap 6mm poly rope woven in a few links at 20 metre intervals and a different colour a few metres from the anchor so you can see when it nearly up.
Leave tails, rope splays out like a nice coloured flag.
20m is the minimum drop for us (10ft under keel, 10ft to deck x 3:1 = 60ft/20m)

Poly rope lasts well, we anchor every day and the rope lasts at least 4 years.
Paint lasted less than 2 weeks.
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Not really,
There's buying it, cutting holes, drilling hole in chainwheel, adding magnets, wiring........

Easiest is cheap 6mm poly rope woven in a few links at 20 metre intervals and a different colour a few metres from the anchor so you can see when it nearly up.
Leave tails, rope splays out like a nice coloured flag.
20m is the minimum drop for us (10ft under keel, 10ft to deck x 3:1 = 60ft/20m)

Poly rope lasts well, we anchor every day and the rope lasts at least 4 years.
Paint lasted less than 2 weeks.

I've seen you make this recommendation before and I love the idea. I just haven't gotten around to doing it yet. My paint marks are starting to get kind of faint.
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I had only 2 red painted sections. 50 feet and 100 feet.
I never needed anything else.
I guess thatís because anchoring is not an exact science.
Looks like some are trying hard to make it so.
But then the KIS people showed up in mass.
Complexity seems to attract many.
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Looks like some are trying hard to make it so.
But then the KIS people showed up in mass.
Complexity seems to attract many.
Yup. When the first red shows up my first mate tightens the clutch on the windlass. That usually gets the red in the water, then I let the wind set the anchor. Once the boat comes into the wind I let out until the second red shows up then I add the snubber.
Then a couple of seconds of idle time in R ........done.
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Easiest is cheap 6mm poly rope woven in a few links at 20 metre intervals and a different colour a few metres from the anchor so you can see when it nearly up..
I guess "easiest & cheap"are viewed differently by some, not to mention seeing the poly rope at night. If you've never had a chain counter then you can't possibly know how easy it is to know how much rode you deployed. Day or night! Yes, it costs real money to install one but aren't we talking about what is the easiest way to count the rode?
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I guess "easiest & cheap"are viewed differently by some, not to mention seeing the poly rope at night.
At night I have to shine a light down there to put the snubber on and on retrieve to make sure the chain is coming up straight , not ripping the galv off on the S/S cheeks and not jumping out of the grooved roller.
Never a problem seeing the rope.



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If you've never had a chain counter then you can't possibly know how easy it is to know how much rode you deployed. Day or night!
I have been on vessels that have them
Still had to shine a light at night
Not hard to count to one.....possibly two

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Yes, it costs real money to install one but aren't we talking about what is the easiest way to count the rode?
I'll stick with the poly rope, the smoke will never escape and I only need to count to two
I have an unused maxwell chain counter still in its box in the wheelhouse - to much drama to fit.
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I have an unused maxwell chain counter still in its box in the wheelhouse - to much drama to fit.

Ebay that thing!
The proceeds will buy a LOT of brightly colored poly!!
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