View Poll Results: What is your boat's displacement?
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0-10,000lbs (0-4.5 metric tons)
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5 |
5.38% |
10,000-20,000 lbs. (4.5-9 metric tons)
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21 |
22.58% |
20,000-30,000 lbs. (9-13.5 metric tons)
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34.41% |
30,000-40,000 lbs. (13.5-18 metric tons)
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13 |
13.98% |
Over 40,000 lbs. (18 metric tons)
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22 |
23.66% |
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12-11-2012, 10:14 AM
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#41
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Guru
City: Chocowinity NC
Vessel Name: My Yuki
Vessel Model: 1973 Marine Trader 34
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 636
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
What I am finding most surprising so far are the number of boat makes and models that are close to ours in size but are much, much lighter. For example A Ross' 34' Marine Trader is only two feet shorter than our GB36, yet it weighs about five tons less.
I have no opinion about the significance of this other than it's rather surprising. I have assumed that boats similar in style and size to ours would weigh about the same but that is clearly not the case.
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Marin, the 17k I quoted would be more comparable to 26k I see as the dry weight of older GB36 twins in YW listings. It's all that extra glass they put in the hull I guess...  , plus an extra engine, etc.
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12-11-2012, 10:37 AM
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#42
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,910
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OK
2001 Bayliner 4788
Factory says 30,000 pounds dry, USCG document says 24 tons
50 years old. Boating as an adult hobby for 13 years.
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12-11-2012, 10:49 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
City: Foley, Alabama
Vessel Name: GITANA
Vessel Model: Sea Ranger 47 Pilothouse
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
OK
2001 Bayliner 4788
Factory says 30,000 pounds dry, USCG document says 24 tons
50 years old. Boating as an adult hobby for 13 years.
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I believe that USCG Document "24 Tons" is a measurement of volume rather than weight (1 "ton" in this case--using the US admeasurement method-- being equivalent to 100 cubic feet of internal volume).
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12-11-2012, 11:20 AM
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#44
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Guru
City: La Conner Wa.
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 877
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I guess I better put my two cents in. Been boating since 1947 when my mother brought me home from the hospital to the sailboat they were living on in Florida.
Our current boat and largest I have owned weighs in at 94,000 lbs on the travel lift. It does not dip down when someone steps aboard. If I ever move back to shore I will probably get a smaller boat.
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12-11-2012, 11:56 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: Fluke
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 131
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I think weight and cost are proportional. Anyone think there is a basic dollar pre pound for new boats?
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12-11-2012, 02:44 PM
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#46
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Quote:
Originally Posted by millennium
Be curious to see what we do/did.
I just recently retired as an airline pilot.
It seems there are quite a few aviation people here.
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One thing you can do if you're interested is check a poster's profile. Some people don't put anything there but some of us have listed our careers, other hobbies, etc. IIRC all you have to do is click on a person's name in their avatar to open their profile.
I'll not list everything here as it's in my profile but one thing that isn't, which will date me somewhat although I was but a wee lad at the time, is I ran one of the stage cameras for Elvis Presley's big concert from Hawaii that went live to Japan and Europe not too long before his death. After the concert itself we taped several additional songs for the 90-minute television special NBC was going to put together. During this we began to have countless VTR problems in the remote truck. During the delays Elvis would come over to the side of the stage and sit down next to me on the base of my camera pedestal. We had some very short but interesting conversations.
I never cared for his music but after that concert I had tremendous respect for his professionalism as a performer.
My Norelco camera, 18:1 zoom lens, and camera pedestal displaced about 700 pounds.
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12-11-2012, 03:09 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
City: Redlands
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 180
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36' Marine Trader, 1978 with advertised displacement of 21,000#. Purchased in September as a Great Loop boat. Scheduled departure is May 2013.
Retired CPA 1948 vintage, displacement unspecified. Although I have something over 10,000 miles of off shore and coastal sailing, this is my first power boat that I can't ski behind.
Arch
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12-11-2012, 05:58 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
City: Bocas del Toro, Panama
Vessel Name: Delta Swizzler
Vessel Model: 1988 58' Vantare
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 245
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1988 58' Vantare displacement 68,000 we have had this boat lil over two years the last boat over 20me vintage 1954
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12-12-2012, 05:12 AM
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#49
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Guru
City: Mooloolaba
Vessel Name: Flora
Vessel Model: Timber southern cray boat
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,856
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Boat timber 48'6" motor cruiser. gardner 6 LXB main engine.
Built by boat builder and myself 1993 to 1995. been living on board ever since.
Displacement 28 tonnes (metric) no ballast.
Marine Engineer , Chief Engineer in Merchant navy, been at sea since 1970, retired in 2006 back to work in 2008, The GFC got me.
Cheers
Benn
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12-12-2012, 11:03 AM
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#50
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,505
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Presently drive a 44 C&L trawler with twins. Registered tonnage 19, displaces 44,000# (travel lift weight) launched in 80, bought in 94. Me; 1948, retired in 2011.
There is a relationship. When I built my first cruising sailboat in 1977 production sailboats were going for around $3.00 per lb.
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12-12-2012, 11:16 AM
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#51
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Guru
City: Everett Wa
Vessel Name: Eagle
Vessel Model: Roughwater 58 pilot house
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,919
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I am a little surprised about the number over 40,000. However, 40,000 is not that much for 45+ ft. Would be interesting how the over 40,000 breaks down. The Eagle is 58 ft, when last pulled 39 tons with the tanks close to empty. For the PNW I would not want a boat that could not pulled by a 50 ton lift as they seem to be the most common/popular at the yards.
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12-12-2012, 12:20 PM
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#52
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Guru
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 623
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GB 36 @ 25K lbs. I'm a 40 something working stiff. Stats: H-6'4", W-190lbs, chest-42", waist-33". Hobbies: 1. love making, 2. playing basketball 3. boating with love making.
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12-12-2012, 12:28 PM
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#53
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahal
GB 36 @ 25K lbs.
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That's a very light GB36. How did you arrive at that number?
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12-12-2012, 12:34 PM
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#54
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Guru
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
That's a very light GB36. How did you arrive at that number?
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Owners manual from 1978.
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12-12-2012, 12:49 PM
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#55
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Interesting. I think GB was being overly optimistic with their manual figures. When we had our boat hauled for the buyer's survey it was completely empty other than partial fuel and water. The Travelift operator weighed it and it was about 28,500 pounds. Our manual lists the displacement at 28,000 pounds. When we had the boat hauled this past spring for bottom painting the Travelift operator weighed it and it was a bit over 30,000 pounds. That's with half fuel and full water.
Ours is a twin with a heavy generator plus we have all our stuff on board.
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