Sad another tall ship gone

[Alaskan Sea-Duction]

Tall Ship "Pilgrim" Keels over. No restoration.


https://www.thelog.com/local/tall-ship-pilgrim-keels-over/

 

[GFC]

That is so sad. Those beauties will never be built again.

 

[menzies]

But it was a reconstruction from the 40's, arriving in Dana Point in the mid-eighties.?

They are still building these.

 

[Peter B]

Delightfully vague reason for her to be condemned. "Boat just keeled over". There's always a reason why a boat keels over - water getting in somehow. I wonder was it just leaking planks generally, which would make the dry dock delays culpable by someone, surely, or was it a burst underwater connection. Plumbing not being checked often enough..? What a cavalier and casual way to treat such a treasure...
If something like that happened to Captain Cook's Endeavour replica, there'd be hell to pay..!

 

[ddw36]

This is OT, but I wouldn't buy any of the homes on top of the cliff in background.

 

[Brisyboy]

This is OT, but I wouldn't buy any of the homes on top of the cliff in background.

Fair go ddw - you can`t just throw that out there without giving some sort or reason...................

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. B. Re: Homes on cliff edge...Just a guess but California is on the Pacific rim of fire. Edge of cliff, shaky-shaky, cliff slips, houses go boom.


Re: Sinking. The boat appears to be well kept. Masts, sails and brightwork etc. seem fine. Why the total loss unless she's completely gone below the water line?

 

[Benthic2]

Is anyone concerned the the USCG just certified her in February and she mysteriously sinks so soon afterward ???

 

[psneeld]

Is anyone concerned the the USCG just certified her in February and she mysteriously sinks so soon afterward ???

If a wooden boat, the USCG has been burned like this so many times they almost outlawed passenger carrying wooden vessels.

Unless you pull every plank every year....or less....there's always a possibility that something has weakened the fastenes or the wood..

I was in the middle of this debate of a rescue on the Chesapeake back in the late 90s.

Google El Torro II.....

 

[GoneFarrell]

I was on Pilgrim a few years ago, looked well-kept to me. The crew dresses and talks in period costume. Good show.

Get a diver down below to plug the holes and stuff it with airbags to get the rail above water.

 

[bayview]

I dont understand why it cant be salvaged.

 

[menzies]

I suspect that they want to create such a buzz that the funding will be easier.

 

[psneeld]

Or the owner(s) know that maybe the whole hull needs refastening/some re-planking and it just isn't worth it.


Kinda why wooden boats of that size and build type went away a long time ago.

 

[OldDan1943]

I suspect that they want to create such a buzz that the funding will be easier.

Any boat can be salvaged and put back in service.... but, is it worth it?

 

[OldDan1943]

Kinda why wooden boats of that size and build type went away a long time ago.

Dont tell the folks in boat building school at Mystic Sea Port, Conn.
They just might throw a caulking iron at you.

 

[psneeld]

Dont tell the folks in boat building school at Mystic Sea Port, Conn.
They just might throw a caulking iron at you.

I will just send them a list of wooden boats I have rescued people from over the years.....



Wooden boats like old TT's with lots of wood...great until neglected....

 

[Benthic2]

Google El Torro II.....

Very Interesting. I read some accounts from the captain...who of course says he is innocent......I read a report from David Pascoe who of course says everyone is guilty.......sad story.

 

[Solly]

Very Interesting. I read some accounts from the captain...who of course says he is innocent......I read a report from David Pascoe who of course says everyone is guilty.......sad story.

Great to be a Monday morning quarterback. I was wondering what exactly we were supposed to learn from the article ??

Ultimately it's the Captain's responsibility for a safe ship, safe trip.

 

[psneeld]

That wooden boats are ticking timebombs without vigilant maintenance.

 

[hollywood8118]

That wooden boats are ticking timebombs without vigilant maintenance.

That's a bit unfair... ALL boats are ticking time bombs
HOLLYWOOD

 

[RT Firefly]

 

[psneeld]

That's a bit unfair... ALL boats are ticking time bombs
HOLLYWOOD

Just going with the flow....

 

[ProMaritime]

Doesn't appear too serious to me. Certainly refloatable.

 

[rgano]

I wonder what sort of sounding and security watch was aboard? Probably none, and that begs the question whether there should be a requirement for same.

 

[kthoennes]

... ALL boats are ticking time bombs...

Yes they are. I even have a switch at the helm that says blowup. Or something like that.

 

[menzies]

Yes they are. I even have a switch at the helm that says blowup. Or something like that.

https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s3/ambiguity-reigns-48633.html