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Old 01-15-2018, 03:31 PM   #21
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Flares
I always take the old ones (as they go dated) from the big boat and have them on the tender
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:20 PM   #22
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Pardon my lack of knowledge but what is the
2 N mile exclusion ?
Here is where I'm going to get myself in trouble most likely:

33 CFR 175.101: "This subpart applies to boats on the coastal waters of the United States and on the high seas beyond the territorial seas for boats owned in the United States.".

33 CFR 175.110: "Between sunset and sunrise, no person may use a boat less than 16 feet in length unless visual distress signals suitable for night use, selected from the list in 175.130 or 175.135, in the number required, are on board."

However, the definition of coastal waters in 33 CFR 175.105 has this proviso: "Those waters directly connected to the Great Lakes and territorial seas (i.e., bays, sounds, harbors, rivers, inlets, etc.) where any entrance exceeds 2 nautical miles between opposite shorelines to the first point where the largest distance between shorelines narrows to 2 miles, as shown on the current edition of the appropriate National Ocean Service chart used for navigation. Shorelines of islands or points of land present within a waterway are considered when determining the distance between opposite shorelines."

Make sense? Not to me either. See page 17 here for a better explanation: https://www.uscgboating.org/images/420.PDF
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The flares on the tender are likely to be stored in a much more harsh environment than those on the boat, so this is one place you shouldn't let them get too old. Since you are now required, as a condition of moorage , to have a safety check sticker on your boat, that is an opportunity to also get a safety check sticker on your tender. If it is small, it only requires 3 up to date flares.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:13 PM   #24
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We have a long painter, two oars, a signal device, 2 life jackets, a hand held vhf, and a small tool kit. Our 10.5 rib has a small bow locker.

Edit: Don't forget a copy of your registration. We got pulled over last year in St. Augustine for speeding. All they wanted to see were the life preservers and registration. They gave us a warning.
We don't put up with scoff laws like you and Lena in our waters
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:42 PM   #25
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We don't put up with scoff laws like you and Lena in our waters
Us? I did a kick out of the 2 very young LEOs who pulled us over for speeding; 2 grey hairs and a dog in 10.5 hp OB with a 9.8b hp OB. Maybe they were just trying to make us feel good?
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<2 miles across you only need one flare instead of three. But why would anyone go down to one when they come in packs of three?
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:39 PM   #27
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My RIB is clearly marked with T/T (tender too) so it carries no state registration.
Do I still need to carry a copy of the "origin"?
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:41 PM   #28
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A quick observation, if one attempts to carry ALL the necessary 'stuff', there may not be room for passengers and groceries.
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:52 AM   #29
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My RIB is clearly marked with T/T (tender too) so it carries no state registration.
Do I still need to carry a copy of the "origin"?
If you're in Florida your RIB needs to be registered and bear state numbers. "Tender to" does work as a technical exemption to registration in some states (Washington, for example), but ONLY if the sole use of the tender is to ferry between the mothership and shore. Florida does not have this "tender to" exemption.

Florida's exemptions are listed below. I doubt that your tender would qualify as a "ship's lifeboat."
  • Non-motor powered vessels less than 16 feet in length.
  • Non-motor-powered canoe, kayak, racing shell or rowing scull regardless of length.
  • Vessels used exclusively on private lakes and ponds.
  • Vessels owned by the U.S. Government.
  • Vessels used exclusively as a ship’s lifeboat.
  • Vessels issued valid registration certificates and numbers by other states, provided the vessel is not stored or operated in state waters more than 90 days.

Source: https://www.flhsmv.gov/motor-vehicle...registrations/
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My tender is a marked T/T to a documented vessel. How does that effect the necessity for a state registration??
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My tender is a marked T/T to a documented vessel. How does that effect the necessity for a state registration??
In Florida, the exemptions posted above are the ONLY exemptions to the registration requirement.
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Sabre, I shall call my tender an 'illegal alien'.
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We have a long painter, two oars, a signal device, 2 life jackets, a hand held vhf, and a small tool kit. Our 10.5 rib has a small bow locker.

Edit: Don't forget a copy of your registration. We got pulled over last year in St. Augustine for speeding. All they wanted to see were the life preservers and registration. They gave us a warning.


I put a copy of our registration in a small ziplock bag and stow it under the engine cover.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:59 AM   #34
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What dinghies require registration?
Every state is different. If it has a motor it probably has to be registered.
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I'm trying to work up a list for things to bring on my dinghy.

Life jackets, throw cushion

small anchor and 2 ropes.

running lights, flashlight

whistle, fire extinguisher,

oar

please add suggestions to my list.



Also, where do you put all this stuff, when away from the dinghy

eating out or shopping ?

9ft Caribe with a 9.9 Yamaha.

Thanks for any help.


Throw a gallon jug of water on board, for emergencies. Also a basic first aid kit.
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Have a USCG or USPS courtesy vessel safety check done.
Examiners should be aware of local legal reqmts and will issue a VSC Decal when you pass.

If only operating during daylight hrs some states let you by with daytime distress signals only. I'd hate to try to have a flare on an inflatable. NY does require anchor, rode, reg #s, horn/ whistle if mechanically powered... it is then consider a power boat in NY
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I put a copy of our registration in a small ziplock bag and stow it under the engine cover.
Good idea!
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:21 AM   #38
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In CT you must register your motorized dinghy.
I keep the registration and a small whistle (noise making device) in one of those small waterproof plastic containers.
A plastic coated mushroom anchor + line (approx 20 ft of 1/4").
Life jackets
Oars of course.
Bailing sponge.
That's all for normal use.
on an extended excursion/exploration we carry a bottle of water each (or a few beers), portable depth finder, cell phone, small bucket for "treasures", maybe some towels/chairs if we're going to a beach.
A stern light on a pole if we plan on being out after dark.
That's about it.
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I always bring a VHF and some waters when in the dinghy. Started this when in the Bahamas. My 20 year old son wanted to go check out a reef in and took the dinghy from our anchorage. I made him take the VHF in case of trouble, and sure enough he got stranded but was able to radio for help. Since then it seemed like a good idea to always take the VHF.
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Yes, the VHF.

Many of the things mentioned wouldn't fit in my dinghy so it's the required things only.

Someone mentioned not carrying an anchor because they don't plan to anchor. Well fine, but if your outboard fails, where will you be when they come looking for you? Wherever the current or wind takes you?
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