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BruceK said:
No FB is the "interesting" bit. Here I`ve only seen FB versions, Mainships are not common here but I don`t recall one on TF either. Maybe it went under a low bridge:). No, really, it has to be factory.
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https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/mainship-340-trawler/290351
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I think there's one member on here with a 34HT like that (no fly bridge). I'm blanking on who it is though.
 
rslifkin said:
I think there's one member on here with a 34HT like that (no fly bridge). I'm blanking on who it is though.
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I've seen maybe one of these. I love a flybridge, but think boats like this look better without. And they would make a great canal boat to go up through the Erie and points beyond.
 
Bacchus on TF has a similar MS. This one has some some great options installed. Very low hours too.
 
I think no-flybridge boats are great for people who like no-fly bridge boats.

I could see that if you have:

- vertigo,
- skin allergic to sun,
- fear of open space,
- tough time climbing ladders/stairs,
- fear of heights in general,
- desire to have roof filled with PV panels,
- need low air draft for getting under things,
- worry about boat COG vertical return in beam seas,
- have general weather conditions uncomfortable without full/heated enclosure, and;
- would rather not have 360 degree views for piloting, spotting flotsam, great scenery... with extra storage room aboard and great place to lounge while at anchor... with refreshments etc.

Other than that - ??? - What's not to love about a Flying Bridge!! I just don't get it...
 
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Art said:
I think no-flybridge boats are great for people who like no-fly bridge boats.

I could see that if you have:

- vertigo,
- skin allergic to sun,
- fear of open space,
- tough time climbing ladders/stairs,
- fear of heights in general,
- desire to have roof filled with PV panels,
- need low air draft for getting under things,
- worry about boat COG vertical return in beam seas,
- have general weather conditions uncomfortable without full/heated enclosure, and;
- would rather not have 360 degree views for piloting, spotting flotsam, great scenery... with extra storage room aboard and great place to lounge while at anchor... with refreshments etc.

Other than that - ??? - What's not to love about a Flying Bridge!! I just don't get it...
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The lack of a flybridge gives more room for solar too.

But it really depends on the boat as much as the user. On some boats, the flybridge is well integrated and a useful space. On others, it's just another place to pilot from, but otherwise not useful space. And of course, if you have a flybridge and a useful lower helm, you have more electronics to buy compared to a single helm boat.

Another factor is how good the lower helm on a boat is. Even when it's not a proper pilothouse, some have good ventilation, good visibility and are pleasant to use. Others are really an afterthought only intended for when you absolutely can't be up top.
 
There are also boats that have a flybridge and no lower helm. That is the worst of all possible options IMO.
 
backinblue said:
There are also boats that have a flybridge and no lower helm. That is the worst of all possible options IMO.
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Agreed, I'm not a fan of that design. If a boat is going to be "upper helm only" I'd rather have it placed like mine is (on the aft cabin, so lower and further aft than a flybridge). Then the placement is similar to where an aft pilothouse would be, but without being fully indoors.
 
On the water - "Redundancy" is one of my cherished terms.

Twin pilot stations, twin engines, two fuel tanks, battery backups, a few anchor and rode choices, two boat hooks, many available lines, two compasses, several fenders, two sets of primary tools, two water tanks, two or more pressure-water sinks, duplicate replacement electrical panel, oodles of fasteners/calks/tapes, draw full of all products' manuals and marine-expertise instruction books, two heads if size/layout permits ... etc...!!!
 
Art said:
On the water - "Redundancy" is one of my cherished terms.

Twin pilot stations, twin engines, two fuel tanks, battery backups, a few anchor and rode choices, two boat hooks, many available lines, two compasses, several fenders, two sets of primary tools, two water tanks, two or more pressure-water sinks, duplicate replacement electrical panel, oodles of fasteners/calks/tapes, draw full of all products' manuals and marine-expertise instruction books ... etc...!!!
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Twice as many things to break and need fixing! lol, sorry, couldn't resist.
 
backinblue said:
Twice as many things to break and need fixing! lol, sorry, couldn't resist.
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True! However... while "no-big-rush" to fix the broken one... the useful redundant other makes things continue with little to no interruption.

Heck... As you can see on avatar - we even have redundant bimini!! LOL
 
Hippocampus said:
Most flybridge boats have a bimini. Great place for solar.
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Tough to fold down a bimini... with PV solar panels attached on their tops. We folded both our bimini down for 14 years in SF Delta... while docking in low entry covered slip.
 
I just talked to a guy whose friend owns this boat. It's a mid-80s vintage Cheoy Lee, I'd guess 50 feet, and arrived in Ensenada a month or so ago from Australia via So Pacific islands.

Wish I knew more. Good to see classic long range trawlers around.

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@BruceK: similar to our own vessel, so (of course) I like! Very nice, and I much prefer the Perkins–shaft–rudder engines setup to ours (bigger engines, and stern drives).
 
Crazy money for ply
If it was strip plank composite it'd be about right.

Seems a lot of power for not much speed.
 
Simi 60 said:
Crazy money for ply
If it was strip plank composite it'd be about right.

Seems a lot of power for not much speed.
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When it was listed yesterday it was $165k, now today it is $265k and already under offer.
 
Good Stats:

3.75 nmpg at 6 knot cruise speed, 3' draft, large rudders, really good piloting view from the inside helm, bridge that I guess is functional [all areas draped], okay appearing interior.

Plywood hull - is not OK... a problem for me!
 
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Art said:
I think no-flybridge boats are great for people who like no-fly bridge boats.

I could see that if you have:

- vertigo,
- skin allergic to sun,
- fear of open space,
- tough time climbing ladders/stairs,
- fear of heights in general,
- desire to have roof filled with PV panels,
- need low air draft for getting under things,
- worry about boat COG vertical return in beam seas,
- have general weather conditions uncomfortable without full/heated enclosure, and;
- would rather not have 360 degree views for piloting, spotting flotsam, great scenery... with extra storage room aboard and great place to lounge while at anchor... with refreshments etc.

Other than that - ??? - What's not to love about a Flying Bridge!! I just don't get it...
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Do you like fly bridges? [emoji3]
 
Serene said:
Kevin Dick does always make nicely shaped boats and this one is no exception. I thought it was good buying at $165k but at $265k not so much.
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That`s a big price hike, but maybe not so surprising. Look at this all f/g Kellick33 for sale, and the design similarities, and the price. Remember these are AUD, it buys about 68c US.
https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2009-kellick-33-cruiser/SSE-AD-7202690/?Cr=0
Boatsales.com.au won`t let me copy a pic, you`ll need to view the advert. Interesting how the dunny/head is accessed from the cockpit.
 
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BruceK said:
That`s a big price hike, but maybe not so surprising. Look at this all f/g Kellick33 for sale, and the design similarities, and the price. Remember these are AUD, it buys about 68c US.
https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2009-kellick-33-cruiser/SSE-AD-7202690/?Cr=0
Boatsales.com.au won`t let me copy a pic, you`ll need to view the advert. Interesting how the dunny/head is accessed from the cockpit.
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I am familiar with the Kellick 33 and yes very similar lines to this cat, but of course they are fibreglass, not blotting paper (plywood).

And the head/shower accessible from the outside is a VERY Queensland thing. Keeps the smells from down below and makes the plumbing much easier, without having to rely on pumps to lift the waste/water up above the waterline.

I do very much like this cat though.
 
The hull

Serene said:
Kevin Dick does always make nicely shaped boats and this one is no exception. I thought it was good buying at $165k but at $265k not so much.
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look very "beamy" and the "gap" between water and platform very small ? No ?

Some specialist of catamaran here ?
 
No head on shot but a good picture of the aft view. Even if clearances are higher at the bows they are quite low aft. Air and water look like they would have troubles leaving. Totally agree LC suspect that design would burp a lot. Most disconcerting. Prefer cat designs with foredecks starting more aft, thin hulls and lots of clearance. You lose interior space but improve seakeeping.
 
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Hippocampus said:
No head on shot but a good picture of the aft view. Even if clearances are higher at the bows they are quite low aft. Air and water look like they would have troubles leaving. Totally agree LC suspect that design would burp a lot. Most disconcerting. Prefer cat designs with foredecks starting more aft, thin hulls and lots of clearance. You lose interior space but improve seakeeping.
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Like this?
 

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Another interesting one in line with recent posts to this thread:

Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport ship will be christened USNS Cody tomorrow in Mobile, AL. Fast transport of medical patients with both surgery suites and hospital rooms in this one.
 

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Serene said:
..And the head/shower accessible from the outside is a VERY Queensland thing. Keeps the smells from down below and makes the plumbing much easier, without having to rely on pumps to lift the waste/water up above the waterline...
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Makes a lot of sense, especially in warm and sunny Queensland.
Hope the Blue Seas is working out well, great similarity to the Island Gypsy36 we had for 10yrs.
 
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