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Self-knowledge is lacking, methinks.

Just a side note: lo-mile used Tesla model 3's are going for 70-90k $AU.
So if the friend bought new, they are losing little $. ;)

And so are some outrageously priced pontoon boats... but, in the actual market each exists... there are much wiser deals available. :dance:
 


JW,
Spell check is your friend, check it out.

None of the boats you show have been proven, notice the articles use the term " claimed " when they mention performance.

The last one you sent there is no way I would attempt an ocean crossing at 4 kts in that thing. It looks too fragile and the winds offshore would wreak havoc on that tennis court of a solar array.

You seen to think I am against electric, I'm not. It's just
not ready for the masses yet. With any new tech there will be early
adopters that shoulder the burden of proving the tech at their cost.
I am not one willing to throw that kind of money at a unproven system.

There was a great article today from ford about their new F- series superduty trucks. The article stated Ford is going to pay for the tech with the profits from this new line of heavy haulers and movers. Ford also stated that it will be a long time before the heavy trucks can turn to the electric side, it ever. Fords words.



When the tech ( I didn't say if) boats get to the point that a battery of equal size and weight of standard fuel capacity, gets the same capabilities and range as a gas boat then the tech will have arrived.


The last boat you linked the builder doesnt even seem to have a actual web site.. makes you wonder


HOLLYWOOD
 
Why would a boat have to be bought in "noticeable quantities" to be considered successful? I mentioned three different hybrid boats that you can order today.

In this context I would call a design/boat "successful" if multiple boats demonstrated that they're capable and reliable and satisfy their skippers over many months and miles.

I can, of course, order a proof-of-concept boat today (money aside), but I hate to be a guinea pig for other people's experiments.
 
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boat...ed-fleming-43-bridgedeck-motor-cruiser/283155


What is the role of the large black handle to the right of the helm station?



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If you look at the photo again, you will see a 2nd one on the far left.
 
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Black handles to throttle twins and center shifts for their transmissions??

Maybe individual trim tab adjustments??

Photo of boat in motion shows it pushing a lot of water at her bow; forming a tall midship wave. Looks to almost nose dive compared to stern angle.
Wonder fuel use to SOG; i.e., nmpg efficiency.
 
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The black handles on the console are probably jog levers for steering. Not sure why they'd have 2, unless wanting to accommodate both left and right handed helmsmen.
 
The black handles on the console are probably jog levers for steering. Not sure why they'd have 2, unless wanting to accommodate both left and right handed helmsmen.

They remind me of my classic Lionel Multi-control Train Masters. I would wager they are throttle controls for each engine, maybe electronic rather than cable actuated.
 
Black handles to throttle twins and center shifts for their transmissions??

Several of those handles aren't the kind I'd want at the helm. Some look like push/pull? And someone losing their footing and bumping/grabbing at them at the edges of the console? Seems like a bad setup.

But, then again, how things work in person isn't always the same as the assumptions we draw from what we seen in pictures. Hard to know without actually trying it.
 
Greetings,
Mr. BK. Quite interesting. Thanks but a question...The ad says two anchors (front/rear). What KIND of anchors are they?


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Greetings,
Mr. BK. Quite interesting. Thanks but a question...The ad says two anchors (front/rear). What KIND of anchors are they?


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My recollection of these as a kid is the "anchor" could be as crude as a bag of sand at the end of a "rope". A better word might be "kellick".
The 2 "anchors" would be to tether it so it didn`t headbutt a rocky national park shoreline.
Here`s another one. Lack of confidence in the single cylinder inboard leading to the outboard seen in some pics seems to have been cured by rebuilding the inboard.
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boat...wooden-river-broadwater-putt-putt-boat/281693
 
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like lot

Black handles to throttle twins and center shifts for their transmissions??

Maybe individual trim tab adjustments??

Photo of boat in motion shows it pushing a lot of water at her bow; forming a tall midship wave. Looks to almost nose dive compared to stern angle.
Wonder fuel use to SOG; i.e., nmpg efficiency.


of Nedeerland boat, the bow go down, the transom up and push lot of water and it start even at "low" speed !?


Compare with the last one who "cut" the water and not at lowest speed
 

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of Nedeerland boat, the bow go down, the transom up and push lot of water and it start even at "low" speed !?


Compare with the last one who "cut" the water and not at lowest speed

Just move all the spares, tools and whisky aft :)
 
of Nedeerland boat, the bow go down, the transom up and push lot of water and it start even at "low" speed !?


Compare with the last one who "cut" the water and not at lowest speed

Yup... tiz nice when the bow cuts water and relatively minor midship "curl" wave forms. I'm confident, that as compared to the big-bow-wave... tonnage of water pusher boats - the boats with a bow that cuts through the water must help to improve nmpg fuel efficiency.
 
Yup... tiz nice when the bow cuts water and relatively minor midship "curl" wave forms. I'm confident, that as compared to the big-bow-wave... tonnage of water pusher boats - the boats with a bow that cuts through the water must help to improve nmpg fuel efficiency.


If nothing else, they should ride better in a short, steep chop.
 
Going directly into a 3-5’ very short period chop as I write. Believe modest beam also relevant. We go up and down but not rolling (SeaKeeper). Our fuel economy halved. Conformation of the bow isn’t the only thing. Also think the more form stability the boat has the more up and down
 
Photo of boat in motion shows it pushing a lot of water at her bow; forming a tall midship wave. Looks to almost nose dive compared to stern angle.
Wonder fuel use to SOG; i.e., nmpg efficiency.
I would suggest she's pushing against tide and has lever pushed forward to keep speed up.
 
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The Champion/Feng Shui was designed by Bill Lapworth and indeed built by Cheoy Lee, for my dad. We took delivery in 1959. Dad was not the owner of Union Oil, nor did he sail 2x in the TransPac. Dad's cousin owned the Chubasco and sailed her on the TransPac. As is so often the case every boat takes on certain legends about their owners and the various journeys they accomplish. I remember what a hoopla there was when Bill designed in the engine in the bow, many a night was spent amongst the yachting community talking about the pros and cons. As it turned out, overall, dad considered her among the most seaworthy of boats he owned and since he was well known for his long and challenging voyages that says alot about her. I wish her new owners the very best, she is a remarkable yacht.
 
@BruceK: could that handle you were asking about be a fuel cutoff? I had a similar one on Anika J: a wire cable that connected to the same place the fuel off solenoid did, but all manual.
 

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Just saw this boat at the marina in Bellingham a couple days ago. I remember it when it was for sale the first time in Seattle. It was even more spectacular before the current owner painted the hull (apparently by hand). I call it the "diarrhea" boat now. Incredible woodwork on the inside and the hull shape below the water is deep and very seaworthy. As I recall it had the round prop protector as well.
 

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a few more...
 

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and just a few more, have not idea about the legs!! I think that is the lazarette?
 

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The Champion/Feng Shui was designed by Bill Lapworth and indeed built by Cheoy Lee, for my dad. We took delivery in 1959. Dad was not the owner of Union Oil, nor did he sail 2x in the TransPac. Dad's cousin owned the Chubasco and sailed her on the TransPac. As is so often the case every boat takes on certain legends about their owners and the various journeys they accomplish. I remember what a hoopla there was when Bill designed in the engine in the bow, many a night was spent amongst the yachting community talking about the pros and cons. As it turned out, overall, dad considered her among the most seaworthy of boats he owned and since he was well known for his long and challenging voyages that says alot about her. I wish her new owners the very best, she is a remarkable yacht.

That is so cool and so much appreciated. And a reason I love this site! BTW, who can, perhaps you can, tell us why the engine towards the bow. Is this an old proven design? It was the first I had ever seen it when I found this listing. If that boat could only talk, I'd love to hear the stories.
 

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