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08-21-2017, 12:46 AM
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City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
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EPA Mandated Fuel Cans
The EPA has created a whole new industry, by accident. Their almost useless fuel can design now has about 20 makers of replacement nozzles and add on vents. One of the rare positive results of the EPA. Unintended consequences.
Now instead of buying the old style can we have to buy two items to get the same result. I went to Amazon looking for one and found about 20 different styles. The local farm store usually has them but they were out.
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08-21-2017, 12:55 AM
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Scraping Paint
City: CT
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 963
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You can buy "NATO style" steel ones online. Most are cr^p quality Chinese, so don't go cheap if you want mil spec.
Yes the nozzle is separate.
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08-21-2017, 03:42 AM
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City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
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I still have some 15 5 gal cans of the older style. The only one that is "EPA" certified I had to drill out the center of the nozzle to get it to work!
Half of them have no nozzle and I use aluminum foil for a cap. Works fine.
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08-21-2017, 05:29 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Most of the EPA compliant cans are awful. I hate them!
While buying a replacement chain for our chain saw at a local lawn and garden store I found and purchased one of these No-Spill cans.
What an absolute joy to use! Easy, fast and environmentally friendly...
Who knew?
Bruce
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08-21-2017, 05:31 AM
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City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
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Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!
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08-21-2017, 07:23 AM
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City: East Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!
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Ditto that! Only bureaucrats could take a relatively simple concept that's worked for years and mandate a change that creates the very problem they're attempting to correct. I believe the new jugs are universally despised. Awkward and messy!
Along the same line, my new remote outboard tank was fitted with a newly designed cap incorporating a tiny duckbill valve that will allow air into the tank, but won't allow any to escape. It created enough pressure in the tank and connected fuel line to open the float valve in the carburetor and flood the engine as well as push fuel out of the cowling. What a mess! What genius in design! I snipped off a corner of the duckbill: problem solved.
These must be the same crop of regulatory wonks who gave us low-flow toilets. Progress!!
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08-21-2017, 08:42 AM
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City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!
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Same here. I bought some of the vents pictured above and adapted plastic hose for the spouts.
Fork the EPA!
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08-21-2017, 08:55 AM
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City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!
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...and I thought that I was the only one who hated these new gas cans! (Whew!!!) 
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08-21-2017, 09:52 AM
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City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
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Ha, just drilled out one this past weekend 
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08-21-2017, 10:26 AM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Happy that I don't own any fuel cans so have zero problem. Ignorance is bliss as I didn't even know there was a problem.
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08-21-2017, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Akeeva
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 50
Join Date: Apr 2014
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What Bruce said!
I've used the No-Spill brand gas cans for several years and really like them. Easier for me to fill the little dinghy gas tank than any other gas can I've used.
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08-21-2017, 10:58 AM
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Guru
City: La Conner Wa.
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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There are several video's on YouTube on how to modify your existing containers so they flow better. I haven't tried it yet but after spending over 10 minutes trying to pour 5 gallons of fuel, I'm ready to try.
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08-21-2017, 11:46 AM
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City: Punta Gorda, FL
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USA Today reported today that the Barcelona terrorists had a hundred filled gas cans ready to use if need be.
I'll bet they were not the politically correct type. 
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08-21-2017, 12:01 PM
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
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I cruise garage sales for the older type cans. Modify the ones that have no vent with a drilled hole stopped with a sheet metal screw.
Al-Ketchikan
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08-21-2017, 12:24 PM
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City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seasalt007
USA Today reported today that the Barcelona terrorists had a hundred filled gas cans ready to use if need be.
I'll bet they were not the politically correct type. |
They meant gas (e.g. propane) cans not petrol cans.
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08-21-2017, 12:42 PM
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City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,774
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al
I cruise garage sales for the older type cans. Modify the ones that have no vent with a drilled hole stopped with a sheet metal screw.
Al-Ketchikan
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The snap in vents in the first photo work fine.
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08-21-2017, 01:01 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
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I have used this all summer long to fuel my dink from gas cans. Works awesome!!!
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08-21-2017, 01:21 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I looked up the Terrapump.
It's available from West Marine.
Wonder how long the batts last?
3gpm is'nt half bad.
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North Western Washington State USA
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08-21-2017, 01:29 PM
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City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
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Used the same batteries all summer long. You carry extra batteries...
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08-21-2017, 03:40 PM
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Guru
City: Alexandria, VA
Vessel Model: 2000 Wellcraft
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,467
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Thing is, I spill more fuel from these new designs than I ever did with the older models - way to go EPA!
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Me, too.
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