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Old 10-15-2021, 09:48 PM   #241
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Jwellington, Yes, it seems in today's market, many brokers/manufacturers have so much business they can't be bothered getting back to potential customers. . . . . the problem with THAT business model though, is that this market won't continue forever, and many customers have LONG memories . . . . Come the lean times, and manufacturers start calling old contacts, and they can't figure out why people tell them to p**s up a rope! New or used, big or small, treat every customer the way YOU would like to be treated, and you can't go wrong, but that's just me, and was OUR business model until we bought a boat and retired . . . well, SEMI-retired! It worked well for us!
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Just so.
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Old 11-02-2021, 07:10 PM   #243
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Just came back from the big show, it was nuts, will not be going back. Way too busy, brokers all say it was a record show.
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Old 11-02-2021, 07:12 PM   #244
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Just came back from the big show, it was nuts, will not be going back. Way too busy, brokers all say it was a record show.
And tell me the year they didn't say that.
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Old 11-03-2021, 03:20 PM   #245
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Just got back from show in Fort Lauderdale, and it was a huge show for sure. Interesting new (at least to me) things I saw: (1) Completely Electric boat - probably a 30 footer with a in-board type drive. The boat had a pretty good range, and charging capability. Not a very large boat, but in chatting with the builder, he noted that boats can carry a significant load of batteries and as technology gets better, the day of a reasonably powered totally electric boat is right around the corner. I think for long distances not really a solution, but for shorter runs and charging off a generator while at anchor and shore power at marinas may work. I'd have to imagine that (like electric cars) this configuration would simply the power train, huge tanks etc. and fuel issues. (2) Outboards with a twin props on one unit. Units with 400HP had counter rotating props like a Bravo3 outdrive - eliminates prop walk, and more efficient in pushing water. I saw a 600HP Mercury - what a beast. (3) Technology keeps making boating easier for folks that don't live on the water. By this I mean, there is a ton of people (some like me) that boated when they were 20, left boating for 45 years, and now return to boating when retired, and want to handle a 35-40 foot boat. I will admit, it is a daunting task at least for me. Boston Whaler (no affiliation or relationship) had a 32 and 34 Conquest at the show. They explained to me that all of them are now equipped with Joy Stick navigation - this allows people who don't have the skills (mostly me) to dock this boat without damaging it. Apparently, they told me that there are a lot of people that want to get into comfortable boating and can afford these boats (not I), but can't drive them - so interesting development here. (4) If you want to a buy a center console boat, I saw at least 100 of them with not less than 4 engines on the back, some had 5, there will be plenty of them around in a while whenever this market gets more balanced.
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Old 11-03-2021, 08:39 PM   #246
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...they told me that there are a lot of people that want to get into comfortable boating and can afford these boats (not I), but can't drive them
I can't imagine what it will be like to live in a world where this happens. Even with people who think they can drive a boat it's often insane out there.

Really appreciate the report. Bet that 600hp Merc was the size of a small car.
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Old 11-04-2021, 04:24 PM   #247
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That Merc was big, the specs at the show said it was almost 1300 pounds, the unit there had twin counter rotating props. What was interesting is the dealer said you could mount three or four of them on about 30" centers across the transom - I can't imagine 4 of these V-12 monsters on the back of a boat without ripping off the transom.

On the driving boats, yes, it would be crowded out there, but that's a good thing. If boats were easier to drive more people would join the industry benefiting all of us. Just think of the things in our larger boats that require so much expertise (which I don't have) - docking, generator load management, starting, anchoring, to name a few. The way I see it, if a $75K car can parallel park itself without hitting other cars, I imagine that we can figure out how a Krogen 52 costing a $1M or more can dock itself, or hold itself in place at "anchor" without dropping its anchor using GPS, engine and thrusters.

In mind, cars and boats used to have about the same technology year ago. For those of us old enough to remember, older cars were a real pain to drive. I recall seeing my Dad get under his 1956 Ford to adjust the rear brakes. Many cars of that era didn't have power steering, power brakes, disc brakes, synchronized manual transmissions, no hydraulic clutches, all of this making them a total pain to drive. Given the improvements in cars, many people now share the joy of driving. Hopefully boat makers will keep making improvements on these key issues. I'll get off the soap box, now.
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That Merc was big, the specs at the show said it was almost 1300 pounds, the unit there had twin counter rotating props. What was interesting is the dealer said you could mount three or four of them on about 30" centers across the transom - I can't imagine 4 of these V-12 monsters on the back of a boat without ripping off the transom.

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They've been well tested on several different boats.
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In mind, cars and boats used to have about the same technology year ago. For those of us old enough to remember, older cars were a real pain to drive. I recall seeing my Dad get under his 1956 Ford to adjust the rear brakes. Many cars of that era didn't have power steering, power brakes, disc brakes, synchronized manual transmissions, no hydraulic clutches, all of this making them a total pain to drive. Given the improvements in cars, many people now share the joy of driving. Hopefully boat makers will keep making improvements on these key issues. I'll get off the soap box, now.
I remember that too. Kept people like my mom from driving for a long time which was a really good thing. When she finally started driving at 30+ years old the cars had power everything it was still not a good thing, mostly for the people around her. A lot of family reminiscing includes talking about her driving over medians and pulling out into traffic where she didn't have an accident but caused one.

I agree with you that docking and other process could use more tech.
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