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Old 12-24-2020, 06:50 PM   #1
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The 36th Americas Cup

For the benefit of those interested, the 36th A/C, in Auckland NZ, is quickly approaching. They have already held a pre-A/C regatta or series which Team NZ won. It was a four team event including the defender NZ, and the three challengers, which are Italy, UK, US. These foiling monster 75' monohulls are awesome..! If you thought those foiling cats were incredible last cup, these foiling monohulls are even faster, and even trickier to sail, so...watch and enjoy..!

Even now, if you have a streaming service, it is probably possible to replay those races. Certainly entertaining.

Overall program from now here...
https://www.aucklandnz.com/36th-americas-cup
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Old 12-24-2020, 07:49 PM   #2
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Thanks for the reminder. I was captivated by the last cup. One of the. Most competitive series ever in sports. Absolutely incredible.
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For the benefit of those interested, the 36th A/C, in Auckland NZ, is quickly approaching. They have already held a pre-A/C regatta or series which Team NZ won. It was a four team event including the defender NZ, and the three challengers, which are Italy, UK, US. These foiling monster 75' monohulls are awesome..! If you thought those foiling cats were incredible last cup, these foiling monohulls are even faster, and even trickier to sail, so...watch and enjoy..!

Even now, if you have a streaming service, it is probably possible to replay those races. Certainly entertaining.

Overall program from now here...
https://www.aucklandnz.com/36th-americas-cup
Up front on the site Pete linked is a replay of the 4 races of Dec 17th. Awesome!
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Watching the youtube day-by-day summaries of Prada races from a few days ago. Absolutely amazing. High art.

Thanks for posting Baker. I would have missed this..
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I would love to see this first hand. Just doesn't seem possible. I would quarantine on bags of sails to see it!
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Watching the youtube day-by-day summaries of Prada races from a few days ago. Absolutely amazing. High art.

Thanks for posting Baker. I would have missed this..
Happy holidays.
Point of order Mr Veebles. My name is not Baker, (he's the other guy), nor is it Binklebonk, it's just Peter B or even better, just plain Pete...just sayin'...
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Old 12-24-2020, 09:47 PM   #7
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Up front on the site Pete linked is a replay of the 4 races of Dec 17th. Awesome!
Keith, for those interested, just where did you find the link to the replays of those races..? I must admit I cannot, and it was me put the website link up there.
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Incredible skill/engineering.
But I would like to see the race return to Isle of Wight every 12 years or so, in a monohull. For old times sake.
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Keith, for those interested, just where did you find the link to the replays of those races..? I must admit I cannot, and it was me put the website link up there.
I just scrolled through.
try this:
https://www.americascup.com/en/video...Y-1-HIGHLIGHTS
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Old 12-25-2020, 03:36 AM   #10
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Thanks Keith. Beggered if I could find that link from the original site. Still can't actually, but your link delivers the goods.
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Old 12-25-2020, 05:41 AM   #11
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Another contest between N.A.s and engineers. The sailors seem pretty irrelevant. Rather keep abreast of the ocean races where the human element of the sailors actually on the boat comes into play.
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I get your point hippo (would highlight SW engineers) and my wife can't go 5 minutes without a "hurumph, not real sailing"comment." But keeping those boats on foil in 8 kts of wind takes impressive crew skills. The 2013 AC in San Francisco, where foiling first showed up in AC, was amazing to watch. At the beginning of the series, foiling downwind didn't happen. By the end of the series, both teams had cracked the code and were both foiling downwind. The most fascinating races were light wind races where crew skills are crucial. As I recall, NZ was about the clinch the AC in light air when the race was called due to time. US came back to run the table. Absolutely riveting competition.

But still, there appears to be classic match racing tactics, especially at the start.

If I can only turn off the volume of my wife and her Hurumphs.....
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I dont do pay for view so I have not seen the Americas Cup race in years.
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I dont do pay for view so I have not seen the Americas Cup race in years.
Challenger series just completed in Auckland. Highlight clips off YouTube. About 25 mins each.


Day 1
https://youtu.be/D6WGv5z80kY

Day 2
https://youtu.be/c8ZJJNyQ0IA

Day 3
https://youtu.be/IvFn_sXRxHk
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Another contest between N.A.s and engineers. The sailors seem pretty irrelevant. Rather keep abreast of the ocean races where the human element of the sailors actually on the boat comes into play.

Anything, from square riggers to foiling dinghies, that gets people excited about sailing I'm all in favor of.
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Now the ocean racing boats foil as well. So you have the endurance, strength and skill of the crew, decision making of the afterguard particularly the navigator understanding his boat and weather as well as the dynamics of keeping the proper mindset of the crew.
AC is a short flat water race in a very circumscribed parameters of wind speeds. You look at the stress gauges and even with soft sails trim is determined by the computer. Everything else is determined before the race starts, once again by a computer and your grinders just follow the directions. I raced jboats and other class around bouys but also ocean (Bermuda, Halifax etc.) No question in my mind even back then there’s a lot more to ocean. That divide has gotten even more apparent as technology has advanced. Saw AC both at Newport and San Diego. Great spectator experience but have much more respect for the long distance racers. Can’t imagine going through the Southern Ocean. What that has to take out of you. Day after day. Watch after watch.
Unfortunate only the French seem to rout for these guys at a National level. In my country most folks don’t even watch or follow any of it.
In the old days boats had to come on their own bottom. Now a days they would break up in a fresh breeze.
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What do foiling catamarans have to do with real world sailing? Are there any technology advances to these boats that have the slightest relevance to actual unpaid sailors and their boats? Any trickle-down to the Rest of Us who aren’t billionaires?
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It's interesting that we are seeing more foiling boats on Mission Bay in SD. Started with a few Moth's and Kites and now there are at least a dozen of different verities including some larger boats.

The technology is amazing on the new AC cup boats but the strategy which was so important before is now not as important as not doing a "touch down" and trying to get the boat back up on a foil as quickly as possible. It seems more about boat control and less about strategy.
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I watched full live coverage of the recent regatta on Youtube. But apparently it's only available in
where there is no competing subscription based coverage. So Canada gets it free but US doesn't.

It's pretty remarkable to see these guys sailing at 30-40 knots in 10 knots of breeze. The monohulls are faster than the previous multihulls. Looking forward to the series.
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We patrolled one Americas Cup in San Diego. We were on the edge of the course and our job was to keep all the sightseeing boats off the course. You could see the cloud of diesel exhaust coming our way and then it would pass by us and then return as the race boats came by.
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