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1981 Cheoy Lee 67

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Martin J

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Vessel Name
Artemis
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Cheoy Lee 67
Hi Guys

As Many of you know I've spent the last few years refitting my 1981 Cheoy Lee 67. I bought it to replace my Cheoy Lee 53 we lost in Hurricane Irma in the BVI's in 2017.
However due to a medical hiccup in life we have to sell it. The list of upgrades and major work has been huge. And the plan was to go back down to Caribbean and continue cruising. The list of work has been huge engines are Cat 3208 NA (300+ hrs since major o/haul. Gens are new with 300 hrs+ 3500 gall diesel tanks. If anyone is interested, I can put you in contact with the marina manager to view.

The boat is lying in Tarpon Springs.

You will need to carry out some work to finish the refit paint and varnish etc

Please no tire kickers and time wasters.

An incredible vessel 240K.
 

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Several years ago, a friend took essentially the same boat from San Francisco to Hawaii, then Tahiti, then Australia where he sold the boat. Very capable boat and an amazing liveaboard for under $250k. My dream at the time was to do a liveaboard trawler school similar to John Neal's Mahina Tiare. The owner was kind enough to consider allowing the boat to be uses as a training platform. Fork in the road for me - around that time I rejoined corporate America.

Peter
 
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Hi Guys

If anyone is interested in my boat, I will be on board for the next 8 days. So can go through what's been done and what is required.
 
Very nice ship. I wonder what the range is with those massive tanks in it. The engines are thirsty as i understand. I am not yet ready to pull the trigger on any boat. I need to sell my house and a few properties in the Philippines first.
 
They are 3208 NA's (Naturally aspirated) Max 210hp, so consumptions is not bad and the tankage gives transatlantic range etc. Probably burning around 7 galls an hour at 1800rpm.Producing 66hp at that speed.
 
They are 3208 NA's (Naturally aspirated) Max 210hp, so consumptions is not bad and the tankage gives transatlantic range etc. Probably burning around 7 galls an hour at 1800rpm.Producing 66hp at that speed.


At what speed does it burn 7 galls
 
Hi Guys

As Many of you know I've spent the last few years refitting my 1981 Cheoy Lee 67. I bought it to replace my Cheoy Lee 53 we lost in Hurricane Irma in the BVI's in 2017.
However due to a medical hiccup in life we have to sell it. The list of upgrades and major work has been huge. And the plan was to go back down to Caribbean and continue cruising. The list of work has been huge engines are Cat 3208 NA (300+ hrs since major o/haul. Gens are new with 300 hrs+ 3500 gall diesel tanks. If anyone is interested, I can put you in contact with the marina manager to view.

The boat is lying in Tarpon Springs.

You will need to carry out some work to finish the refit paint and varnish etc

Please no tire kickers and time wasters.

An incredible vessel 240K.
If still available would like to understand more fully. Please let me know. Thanks
 
Hi Guys

As Many of you know I've spent the last few years refitting my 1981 Cheoy Lee 67. I bought it to replace my Cheoy Lee 53 we lost in Hurricane Irma in the BVI's in 2017.
However due to a medical hiccup in life we have to sell it. The list of upgrades and major work has been huge. And the plan was to go back down to Caribbean and continue cruising. The list of work has been huge engines are Cat 3208 NA (300+ hrs since major o/haul. Gens are new with 300 hrs+ 3500 gall diesel tanks. If anyone is interested, I can put you in contact with the marina manager to view.

The boat is lying in Tarpon Springs.

You will need to carry out some work to finish the refit paint and varnish etc

Please no tire kickers and time wasters.

An incredible vessel 240K.
First appearances look good from the pic. Would like to know,
How many hours prior to "rebuilt" engines. What was done during the rebuild as they are not sleeved.
Airdraft- can it do the Great Loop, less than 19.5' with bimini down.
Any stabilizers?
More pics?
 
Airdraft- can it do the Great Loop, less than 19.5' with bimini down.
Any stabilizers?
More pics?

Draft would be my guess, for your biggest problem on the the loop. I had to be very careful with tides to have enough water under keel and my draft is 3 feet. The beam will keep you out of the Canadian canals.
Mike
 
HI Buddy,
Sorry about the delay in replying,

I have a god friend down in Tarpon Springs who is dealing with this for me.
He has photos/ relevant details etc.

His details are

Larry Kornreich
T 727 364 1133
Hudsonboy66@yahoo.com
 
Mr RT,

Thanks for the figures and setting the record straight. I was parroting some friends who went did both the Rideau and the Trent-Severn. They talked about the narrow canal and the big rocks along the sides. It made an impression.

My friends did make it through and had a great time in your wonderful country. I wish I would have made it there also.

Mike
 
Greetings,
Mr. b. Your post #11. "The beam will keep you out of the Canadian canals." Operational width of Rideau Canals lock stations is 28'. https://parks.canada.ca/lhn-nhs/on/rideau/visit/navigation/points-retenir-navigation-facts
A 67 ft boat in the Rideau and Trent will not make you very popular with us natives, The only way to contemplate it would be to do as the Kawartha Voyageur does, and pay for Locks to open early for them to pass and they do not stay at the Locks, where the power is. also 4'6" over the sill at the 3rd lock in Jones falls, will probably trip you up
 
Greetings,
Mr. C. Hmmm...First I've ever heard of any dissension amongst the "natives" to larger boats transiting the system. Agreed the KV is a bit of a bother on occasion but she's a one-shot deal. Nothing that can't easily be worked around.


Also agree that too low or too high water can complicate matters.
 
Greetings,
Mr. C. Hmmm...First I've ever heard of any dissension amongst the "natives" to larger boats transiting the system. Agreed the KV is a bit of a bother on occasion but she's a one-shot deal. Nothing that can't easily be worked around.


Also agree that too low or too high water can complicate matters.
Sorry RT yes that was my point she makes sure she does not effect the system by paying to transit early and alone and docks without taking up all the dock space. I think we can all agree a safe size for the Rideau and Trent is about 45 ft with 4ft of depth. I know you know the Rideau well, can you imagine meeting a 65ft 6ft draught vessel coming into the Top of Jones falls, or exiting Newboro heading for the narrows. Unfortunately over the past few years (Post Covid) we are seeing bigger and bigger vessels trying to transit, and the talk on the dock is it is starting to become an issue. (We were locking up last year with a couple from Wisconsin on a GB36 who were worried they were to big and could not believe how big boats were that were coming through the system) Last year there were 4 Fleming 55's traveling together all refused to shut off generators in the Locks, (Against the rules, and puts our fine Lock staff in a very tenable position), Theses are beautiful boats and I am sure the folks are very nice that own them, but as our boat is not intended to go through the Welland and run up the middle of the lakes, They are designed to do so, and when they do are a fabulous sight for us to see. My intent was to let the OP know that if he is concerned he should be.
 
Sorry RT yes that was my point she makes sure she does not effect the system by paying to transit early and alone and docks without taking up all the dock space. I think we can all agree a safe size for the Rideau and Trent is about 45 ft with 4ft of depth. I know you know the Rideau well, can you imagine meeting a 65ft 6ft draught vessel coming into the Top of Jones falls, or exiting Newboro heading for the narrows. Unfortunately over the past few years (Post Covid) we are seeing bigger and bigger vessels trying to transit, and the talk on the dock is it is starting to become an issue. (We were locking up last year with a couple from Wisconsin on a GB36 who were worried they were to big and could not believe how big boats were that were coming through the system) Last year there were 4 Fleming 55's traveling together all refused to shut off generators in the Locks, (Against the rules, and puts our fine Lock staff in a very tenable position), Theses are beautiful boats and I am sure the folks are very nice that own them, but as our boat is not intended to go through the Welland and run up the middle of the lakes, They are designed to do so, and when they do are a fabulous sight for us to see. My intent was to let the OP know that if he is concerned he should be.

I thought the limit was 65’ and 6’ draft. The Canal authority sets the limits and if the boat is too big then they should stop it at the first lock. I know they quizzed us on the draft, we were under 5’ so we didn’t have to sign a damage waiver. They said between 5’ and 6’ draft they wanted the waiver. Over 6’ they said no go. If the boat is over the size limits then the canal should deny it entry. Sure there are some big boats but if they are within the size limits then they should be allowed to enter the system. Or get the canal authority to change the size limits.

As to the generators running in the locks, the lock master should have told them to shut the generator off and then waited for them to comply. If they have to wait for a while, or for hours, for the lock master to move them up/down, don’t you think the boat owners will comply? It is just like training a dog, lay down the rules and then wait for the dog to comply. If you say they have to shut off the generators and then you lock them through anyway you are enabling bad behavior.
 
Greetings,
Mr. C. I understand the canal people TRY to maintain depths of 5' on the Rideau and 6' on the Trent. I have no idea of other caveats. I would guess that there are size and weight limitations for the marine railway at Big Chute.
I also understand fixed bridge clearance is 21'.



We have experienced too high and too low waters in our transits over the last 30 years, or so.
 
I thought the limit was 65’ and 6’ draft. The Canal authority sets the limits and if the boat is too big then they should stop it at the first lock. I know they quizzed us on the draft, we were under 5’ so we didn’t have to sign a damage waiver. They said between 5’ and 6’ draft they wanted the waiver. Over 6’ they said no go. If the boat is over the size limits then the canal should deny it entry. Sure there are some big boats but if they are within the size limits then they should be allowed to enter the system. Or get the canal authority to change the size limits.

As to the generators running in the locks, the lock master should have told them to shut the generator off and then waited for them to comply. If they have to wait for a while, or for hours, for the lock master to move them up/down, don’t you think the boat owners will comply? It is just like training a dog, lay down the rules and then wait for the dog to comply. If you say they have to shut off the generators and then you lock them through anyway you are enabling bad behavior.
Totally agree that the lock should not have moved, until the situation was resolved Unfortunately for Guys like us who were behind them that would have been pretty unfair. Dave, the Lock staff as you know try very hard to be accommodating and unfortunately the owners would not comply (we were at Kingston Mills behind them) and know the Lock staff very very well, and Jen made the best call she could in a tough situation, and then passed on the word up the system. I know the guaranteed depth at the top sill of the 3rd lock at Jones Falls (lowest point in the system) is an immovable 5' if you draw 4'6" and come out of the lock other than barely moving your stern will kick down and Hit. Our home port is Kingston Marina in the inner Harbour and we see at least a dozen boats hauled every year due to the Jones falls sill. I am going to leave this thread alone now, my purpose was to give the OP (as a novice to the CDN canal system) an idea first hand of what is happening and the mood of Users over the last few years on the Rideau. Many thanks as always to you for your very sage advice that has helped me tremendously over the years. Cheers Ed
 
From Parks Canada web site:

Big Chute Marine Railway
The maximum size of vessel which can be transported on the carriage is as follows:

Vessel weight 90 tonnes (99.0 tons)

Length 30.3 m (100')

Beam 7.3 m (24')

James
 

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