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08-11-2016, 09:54 AM
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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Yacht Refit
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable company on the Gulf Coast (preferably Alabama/Florida) that is capable of doing a complete refit of a GB 36 Trawler?
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08-11-2016, 11:38 AM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable company on the Gulf Coast (preferably Alabama/Florida) that is capable of doing a complete refit of a GB 36 Trawler?
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Descripe what you consider a "complete refit".
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08-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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Complete refit
New wiring, new hoses, possibly new engine or re build of existing one, new electronics, repairs as needed, add bow thruster,
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08-11-2016, 12:17 PM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,475
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Yes, a complete refit is a tall order. Here are some of the things you might do, with a wag at cost done in a boatyard:
1. New navigation electronics, radar $15k
2. New appliances, air conditioner $15k
3. New generator $15k
4. All new wiring $10-20k
5. Replace exterior teak deck with non skid paint $30+k depending on core replacement
6. Refinish interior teak $10k
As you can see, it is easy to spend $100k on a "complete refit". You need a skilled electrician, carpenter, painter, general boatwright. Little of this is grunt work, so it will take $100/hr at yard rates, maybe half to two thirds if you hire outside contractors.
And you start with a $75k boat, put $100k into it and then you have a $125k boat.
David
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08-11-2016, 03:32 PM
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Guru
City: Here
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,937
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
And you start with a $75k boat, put $100k into it and then you have a $125k boat.
David
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Optimist .
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08-11-2016, 06:09 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
Yes, a complete refit is a tall order. Here are some of the things you might do, with a wag at cost done in a boatyard:
1. New navigation electronics, radar $15k
2. New appliances, air conditioner $15k
3. New generator $15k
4. All new wiring $10-20k
5. Replace exterior teak deck with non skid paint $30+k depending on core replacement
6. Refinish interior teak $10k
As you can see, it is easy to spend $100k on a "complete refit". You need a skilled electrician, carpenter, painter, general boatwright. Little of this is grunt work, so it will take $100/hr at yard rates, maybe half to two thirds if you hire outside contractors.
And you start with a $75k boat, put $100k into it and then you have a $125k boat.
David
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a really nice $125K boat that if you have to sell quickly, a $75K boat.
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08-11-2016, 06:17 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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Let's look at it another way. If he were to spend the $175 up front on a boat, will he be able to find one that doesn't need ANY refit? No optimism here.
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08-11-2016, 07:18 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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So what business is it any of ours if he likes and wants to keep his boat? The guy asked for yard recommendations not our personal financial philosophy or advice.
Is it that unusual for a person with financial wherewithal and desire to re-fit his boat? I can think of far less desirable boats that have had money lavished upon them. Many of those folks are members here.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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08-11-2016, 07:23 PM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,371
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Try St Augustine Marine Center.
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08-11-2016, 08:00 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
So what business is it any of ours if he likes and wants to keep his boat? The guy asked for yard recommendations not our personal financial philosophy or advice.
Is it that unusual for a person with financial wherewithal and desire to re-fit his boat? I can think of far less desirable boats that have had money lavished upon them. Many of those folks are members here.
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Absolutely right...
But if a bunch of experienced people basically backhand the answer...it isn't right, but may make him wary of what yards might do to take advantage of a decision like this.
If its definitely a go...then I would go to a yard that offers project managers and not just a work list...those yards always seem to get lost in the process.
It will cost more on the estimate, but probably less to get what you want.
There are few yards I know of to trust a total refit on.
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08-11-2016, 08:52 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 10,960
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable company on the Gulf Coast (preferably Alabama/Florida) that is capable of doing a complete refit of a GB 36 Trawler?
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I'd ask around for who is one of the better independents in your area. One who has a good reputation and is well connected. There's a guy in the Jacksonville area that use to work for Huckins. He went out on his own, knows his limitations and is still well connected with other independents. He's $72/hr vs the full service yards at $95 plus/hr.
We were looking at removing a couple of fuel tanks. The job was to big but he turned us on to a couple of guys who he had worked with before. They quoted a time and materials not to exceed for the job. That's hard to find in most yards. He said he'd work with us as needed.
I don't know how involved you want to be, but just a thought.
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08-12-2016, 05:25 AM
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Guru
City: South Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,003
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If you're talking about Mark I'm doing a refit with him right now on a Burger in Jax. Good guy, good description, I'd hire him for a refit if I was looking. I have his contact info.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
There's a guy in the Jacksonville area that use to work for Huckins. He went out on his own, knows his limitations and is still well connected with other independents.
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08-12-2016, 06:20 AM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,882
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You might check on Saunders in Alabama and Seabrook Marine in New Orleans.
Also there reviews of boatyards on Active Captain.
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08-12-2016, 09:09 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Brandon, MS
Vessel Model: Searching now
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
So what business is it any of ours if he likes and wants to keep his boat? The guy asked for yard recommendations not our personal financial philosophy or advice.
Is it that unusual for a person with financial wherewithal and desire to re-fit his boat? I can think of far less desirable boats that have had money lavished upon them. Many of those folks are members here.
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Well said, sometimes it's just about what you want to do, not what is cost effective, happiness has many different cost levels.
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08-12-2016, 09:18 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
So what business is it any of ours if he likes and wants to keep his boat? The guy asked for yard recommendations not our personal financial philosophy or advice.
Is it that unusual for a person with financial wherewithal and desire to re-fit his boat? I can think of far less desirable boats that have had money lavished upon them. Many of those folks are members here.
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Geez, Craig! You promised to keep my project quiet! ( I completely agree with your statement.)
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08-12-2016, 11:31 AM
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Guru
City: Alabama
Vessel Name: Waypoint
Vessel Model: Californian 48' CPMY
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 504
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Contact Dog River Marine in Mobile, Al. They usually have a pretty good crew to do all of what you listed.
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08-12-2016, 01:50 PM
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Guru
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant
Does anyone have recommendations for a reputable company on the Gulf Coast (preferably Alabama/Florida) that is capable of doing a complete refit of a GB 36 Trawler?
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I highly recommend Progressive Marine Boatyard in St. Petersburg.
I don't allow anyone else to touch my boat. They do it all and have done extensive work on my boat over the past few years: fiberglass, engine, electrical, etc.
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08-12-2016, 01:54 PM
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Guru
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
So what business is it any of ours if he likes and wants to keep his boat? The guy asked for yard recommendations not our personal financial philosophy or advice.
Is it that unusual for a person with financial wherewithal and desire to re-fit his boat? I can think of far less desirable boats that have had money lavished upon them. Many of those folks are members here.
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I am one of them and make no apologies!
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