Hate fishing, but gotta do it.... - Page 2

**Larry M** · 01-24-2013, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hendo78

..."Diver" ...

Chuck a wetty on, some weights, grab a speargun and get wet. Put the spear through its head and buy the time you're at the boat it's dead. Easy peasy :-)

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This one was still alive. Ouch!

Hendo78 · 01-24-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry M

This one was still alive. Ouch!

Yeah seen this one floating around. (The pic not the fella lol)

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RT Firefly · 01-24-2013, 08:12 AM

Greetings,
But....but....

Steve · 01-24-2013, 10:22 AM

"Chuck a wetty on, some weights, grab a speargun and get wet. Put the spear through its head and buy the time you're at the boat it's dead. Easy peasy :-)"

"Sent from my iPad using TrawlerThis one was still alive. Ouch!

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That doesn't look like a head shot to me, where's the club?
Steve W

skipperdude · 01-24-2013, 10:45 AM

Rockfish Conservation and Deep water Release, Alaska …

The practice of venting a fish is out dated.
I personally talked to a group of fish biologists. A bunch of young guys and gals that have perfected the best method of releasing rock fish from deep water.
There job was to fish using rod and reel.
They would catch and tag fish and then release them using the method described.

They would recatch the tagged fish later and were able to determine a 70% to 80% survival rate for fish released this way.

If you google venting fish you will see many articles proving that this is not the way to go.

Venting is old school. 1908 If you need to release a deep water fish do it this way.

If it is required by outdated laws to have a venting tool on board do so but release the fish this way it works.

If you care about the fishes survival.

Can you imagine unskilled people randomly poking holes in a fish and hoping it will survive.

SD

RT Firefly · 01-24-2013, 11:01 AM

Greetings,
If you insist on venting, take it to OTDE!!!!!

skipperdude · 01-24-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marin

The most common method is to use a weighted club made for the purpose and whack the fish hard in the head between and just behind the eyes. This stuns them immediately at which point you can bleed them (or not, depending on the type of fish). It is about as humane as one can make it. Letting them gasp and "drown" on deck is a terrible thing to do. The club method works on every fish from little trout to the fish pictured below.

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A native friend of mine up here told me to hit the fish between the eves and then on the tail.

It sort of breaks the nerve center and stops the fish from flopping around. shorts it out so to speak. It works.

A big halibut can cause some damage on a small boat. After all it is mostly just one giant muscle.

SD

SaucySailoress · 01-24-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy G

I'd pack some lentils and cans of tomatoes for your adventure, just in case.

After the trauma of reading all this, I think I might just turn veggie, and live off lentils and rice when we cast off!! What's a hospitality officer, BTW?

skipperdude · 01-24-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SaucySailoress

After the trauma of reading all this, I think I might just turn veggie, and live off lentils and rice when we cast off!! What's a hospitality officer, BTW?

Easy now you can do it.

It's like those survival shows with people eating bugs.

Just don't think about it.

SD

**Larry M** · 01-24-2013, 03:59 PM

Come on you guys, you're killing me. One of the reasons we're out here is for the seafood. Fishing is one of the most exciting things you can do with your clothes on. And it's not just about rod and reel. These are all from warm water.

skipperdude · 01-24-2013, 04:15 PM

What kind of crab is that?
Almost looks like a king crab.
These are Tanner.

hollywood8118 · 01-24-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry M

This one was still alive. Ouch!

Damn.. that will leave a mark for sure... Butt it looks like it missed all the important parts. When we were cruising we did a lot of spear fishing... and I still do up here in the frigid Northwest. In warm water without all the heavy gear you can do pretty well in most places.
In a ironic turn of events I taught the Admiral to spearfish.. the issue I had was that she didn't like pulling the fish she shot off the spear.. so I would hand her my gun and remove the fish. Problem was by the time I had her gun ready to go she would have shot another fish with my gun.. I was relegated to fish removal and transportation.

But in her defense she is deadly with a spear gun, and we never had a lack of fish in the freezer. A side benefit is having the spear gun aboard as a possible defense weapon in countries that do not allow firearms. even if they dont do much the perception is that they will.. I guess the guy in the above pic will attest.

Last month I posted about trolling a meat line while underway.. still the best way to boat fish in my opinion. My twist is to keep cheap hard alcohol ( tequila is my favorite because I like the smell ) in a squirt bottle in the cockpit. One good squirt to the gills of a fish and they get docile in a hurry.. then bleed them while they are loaded.

HOLLYWOOD

**Larry M** · 01-24-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skipperdude

What kind of crab is that?
Almost looks like a king crab.
These are Tanner.

SD: The locals say they are related to the spider crab. The San Blas Islands of Panama has been the only place we have seen them in the wild. They seem to prefer lots of coral with a mixed sandy bottom in 2-10' of water. They were tasty with about as much meat as a 6.5" dungeness. Surprising the claws didn't have much meat for their size.

bfloyd4445 · 01-24-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SaucySailoress

Hey there, I'm a Commercial diver, preparing to cast off in the spring and sail off into the sunrise on our other boat, a Kalik 40.

I hate fishing. I tried it a few times, both with HWMO and with customers who charter our boat for trolling and line fishing, but got all upset when they had to kill the fish, but I guess it's a skill I'll have to learn sooner or later. If I want to eat!

So far I have picked up some interesting pointers from you guys, and look forward to reading more!

I quit killing fish many years ago but i still fish. I keep only bleeders or fish that would die anyway. I do enjoy eating rockfish.

**Larry M** · 01-24-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

I quit killing fish many years ago but i still fish. I keep only bleeders or fish that would die anyway. I do enjoy eating rockfish.

Say what? You don't kill fish but you still fish and only keep the bleeders that you caught? WTF!

Edit: Maybe the WTF is a little strong. It's after 6 in my time zone. But really, you stopped killing fish and are still fis...

Andy G · 01-24-2013, 05:40 PM

SaucySailoress;After the trauma of reading all this, I think I might just turn veggie, and live off lentils and rice when we cast off!! What's a hospitality officer, BTW?

It came from the first line of a tongue in cheek thread I posted a few years ago welcoming new members to the forum and showing them around the good ship TF.

RT Firefly · 01-24-2013, 05:44 PM

Greetings,
Mr. Larry M. Ah, I'm exactly the same.

Ms. SS. Mr. Andy G is the hospitality officer 'cause he's gonna buy me a beer when I show up at his dock....

swampu · 01-24-2013, 06:43 PM

I think were having some blue crab cakes tonight. Can't wait. Saucy if that's the only issue your going to have consider yourself lucky. It's not a bad problem to have...

bfloyd4445 · 01-24-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry M

Say what? You don't kill fish but you still fish and only keep the bleeders that you caught? WTF!

Edit: Maybe the WTF is a little strong. It's after 6 in my time zone. But really, you stopped killing fish and are still fis...

Yes. I love to fish but one day when i was watching a large sturgeon toy with me watching him position himself like he and the water were one I suddenly realized how beautiful he was and began to think. I thought here was a creature that was around when dinosaurs were on earth that now is threatened with extinction because of man. Watched him as he used the current to test my tackle to its fullest and thought what a crime it would be if such a beautiful creature should join the dinosaurs just for the pleasure of a fat beer drinking clod like me. From that day on it was catch and release all except for bleeders. By the this time i had already been using barb less hooks for years so the only change was i ate less fish.

bfloyd4445 · 01-24-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RT Firefly

Greetings,
Mr. Larry M. Ah, I'm exactly the same.

Ms. SS. Mr. Andy G is the hospitality officer 'cause he's gonna buy me a beer when I show up at his dock....

RT, you would be welcome aboard and for your information my boat was always known for always having plenty of beer. I learned how to raft from fellow boaters out of brew on hot summers days. Today i don't drink much beer but i make a point of always having a well stocked bar for unexpected kerthunks. A kerthunk is the sound a boat makes when its thirsty crew attempts to board.
Thinking about it, ais isnt such a good idea after all............
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