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Old 01-27-2019, 04:50 PM   #21
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A group of us in dinghies returning from a party at night were stopped by the marine police in Stamford Harbor, CT for improper lighting. We were a group of 10 dinghies. We were instructed to follow the police boat to a local dock. I was at the end of the line and with a 3.3 hp motor I began to fall behind. Eventually I shut down the engine, doused my all around white light and rowed back to my boat. The others were all ticketed for improper lighting (no red/green) and some were issued a second citation for lack of a signaling device. True story.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:25 PM   #22
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Ok so honestly, if one person is shining one of our bright LED’s off the front and I’m shining another off the back, does that not satisfy the 360 degree white light? We aren’t going to be in a busy harbor, we are going to be in a damn near empty cove.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:38 PM   #23
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Ok so honestly, if one person is shining one of our bright LED’s off the front and I’m shining another off the back, does that not satisfy the 360 degree white light? We aren’t going to be in a busy harbor, we are going to be in a damn near empty cove.
Tape a plastic white/translucent beverage cup on the end of one of your big flashlights and one of you strike the Statue of Liberty pose with it...

Problem solved...
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:42 PM   #24
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Not positive but several sources like this Boat US foundation article say in waters less than 2 miles wide, visual distress signals are not required.

"Visual Distress SignalsThe Regulations

This information is directed primarily to recreational boaters, but the requirements discussed also apply to operators of vessels engaged in the carrying of six or fewer passengers. The Visual Distress Signal requirements for most commercial vessels are in Title 46 of the Code of Federal Regulations. The requirement to carry visual distress signals became effective on January 1, 1981. This regulation requires all boats when used on coastal waters, which includes the Great Lakes, the territorial seas and those waters directly connected to the Great Lakes and the territorial seas, up to a point where the waters are less than two miles wide, and boats owned in the United States when operating on the high seas to be equipped with visual distress signals."
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:33 PM   #25
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We're on the Missouri trapped above the first dam and there's almost zero law enforcement on the water of any kind, but even so, we have all the required lights on the inflatable 9' dingy. Silly to have a blow-up dingy lit like a Christmas tree in my opinion but it fulfills every reg and why risk the hassle? On the other hand, the white all-around stern light on a 9' raft ruins my night vision because it's right in my eyes. I would argue it makes night running far more dangerous because I can't see anything beyond the small pool of white light so it's a stupid, mindless requirement for a dingy. I usually turn off the stern light (leaving the green and red bow light on), but it's there if I notice a rare water cop motoring around. Tried some black tape on the inboard 180* part of the light housing but then that's not compliant either...
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Ok so honestly, if one person is shining one of our bright LED’s off the front and I’m shining another off the back, does that not satisfy the 360 degree white light? We aren’t going to be in a busy harbor, we are going to be in a damn near empty cove.
The nav rules state A light (my emphasis). So by definition a light fixture is one not two lights.
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The nav rules state A light (my emphasis). So by definition a light fixture is one not two lights.
Actually a masthead and stern ore OK, an all around for less than 12meters is OK.

page 34 of Navrules.... it sends you back to paragraph a where the masthead and stern light are prescribed.

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(d) A power-driven vessel of less than 12 meters in length may, in lieu of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule, exhibit an all-round white light and sidelights.
Power-driven vessel of less than 12 meters in length. Same for
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How are you getting a mast on a dinghy?
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If I were to row my dinghy do I still need lights?
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A vessel under oars may exhibit the lights for a sailboat . If it does not, it shall have ready at hand an electric torch (flashlight) or lighted lantern showing
a white light that shall be exhibited in sufficient time to prevent collision . (See Figure 7 .)
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Specific to Florida

Vessels less than 16 feet in length are required to carry at least 3 visual distress signals approved for nighttime use when on coastal waters from sunset to sunrise. Vessels 16 feet or longer must carry at least 3 daytime and three nighttime visual distress signals (or 3 combination daytime/nighttime signals) at all times when on coastal waters.
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With my tricolor, I don’t worry about a LEO citing us. I’m more concerned about a yahoo flying by in another boat. More than once, we’ve almost been run over.

We have been pulled over and having the registration, flotation devices, being sober and having a good attitude goes a long way.
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