Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-13-2021, 05:28 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
woodscrew's Avatar
 
City: Barnegat Light
Vessel Name: Northern Star
Vessel Model: Bristol 42 1970
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 100
Nj. Icw

Has anyone run the section of the NJ ICW between Cape May and Atlantic City recently? I am anchored up in Brigantine just on the north side of Absecon (AtlanticCity) inlet tonight. Am debating wether to run down the inside to Cape May tomorrow. My only real concern is the shallow areas behind Ocean City. I draw 4’6” with a big skeg and shoe protecting rudder and prop. Not afraid to bump and grind a little. Why do it you may ask? Passenger comfort. Happy wife etc. Gonna stick our nose out the inlet in the morning and see if it has calmed down after all the northeast winds recently. Thanks in advance.
woodscrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 05:36 PM   #2
Guru
 
High Wire's Avatar
 
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodscrew View Post
Has anyone run the section of the NJ ICW between Cape May and Atlantic City recently? I am anchored up in Brigantine just on the north side of Absecon (AtlanticCity) inlet tonight. Am debating wether to run down the inside to Cape May tomorrow. My only real concern is the shallow areas behind Ocean City. I draw 4’6” with a big skeg and shoe protecting rudder and prop. Not afraid to bump and grind a little. Why do it you may ask? Passenger comfort. Happy wife etc. Gonna stick our nose out the inlet in the morning and see if it has calmed down after all the northeast winds recently. Thanks in advance.
Thurs wind will be NW and reasonable IAW Fishweather. Looks good enough to go outside.
__________________
Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
High Wire is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 05:50 PM   #3
Guru
 
BandB's Avatar
 
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire View Post
Thurs wind will be NW and reasonable IAW Fishweather. Looks good enough to go outside.
Looks like virtually no wind waves and just a mild 3' swell at 7 seconds. Nice conditions.

We've never done the run inside through that area. Never been there with a boat we felt was ok there.
BandB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 05:59 PM   #4
Guru
 
High Wire's Avatar
 
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,700
Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB View Post

We've never done the run inside through that area. Never been there with a boat we felt was ok there.

In the Fall is usually ok because the markers are still in place. In the Spring though the ATONS are all over the place until the CG resets them. There are several tight spots that you would want to do only on a rising tide and light winds. If the weather is good, SKIP THE DRAMA and go outside.
__________________
Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
High Wire is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 06:04 PM   #5
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,528
Only times I've run aground was on rising tides. After several minutes, floated off and proceeded.
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 06:10 PM   #6
Guru
 
healhustler's Avatar
 
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,189
Fin stabilized Krogen Manatee (Mango Mama) completed the entire thing headed north this past spring and south about a month ago. With the fins, it’s probably a bit over 4’. Leaving Atlantic City in their northern trek, they hit bottom at the South end of Barnegat Bay but were able to work their way around and back to the deeper channel with no other issues. Heading south from Atlantic City, it was said that one could expect a minimum of 4’ or so, and this guy claims that was about right. I would make sure I started while tide was rising and quit before it dropped too much…all the time watching the wind direction.
__________________
Larry

"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
healhustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 06:21 PM   #7
Guru
 
Sailor of Fortune's Avatar
 
City: St Augustine,Fl
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,714
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce View Post
Only times I've run aground was on rising tides. After several minutes, floated off and proceeded.
Op is asking about a specific piece of ICW waterway in NJ...
__________________
Jack ...Chicken of the sea! Been offshore 3 miles once
Sailor of Fortune is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 06:28 PM   #8
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor of Fortune View Post
Op is asking about a specific piece of ICW waterway in NJ...
Do it on a rising tide if it is "iffy."
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 08:15 PM   #9
Veteran Member
 
LovetoBoat's Avatar
 
City: Liberty Corner
Vessel Name: Lady J
Vessel Model: Donelle 35 Sport
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 78
Do yourself a favor and run the outside. The inside is always a mess - very shallow and you need someone on the bow as a lookout - I do not run the ICW below Barnegat Inlet and neither do my friends.
__________________
Douglas MacArthur: “Preparedness is the key to success and victory.”
LovetoBoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 09:00 PM   #10
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 26,852
Top of the tide.... 2 hours either side and you should have water.

In the narrow, twisting places take it slow.

Someone one the bow doesn't help because the water isn't clear enough and comes up so rapidly you aren't stopping anyway..

All the way is sand or mud so slow going with a full keel trawler let's you back off and feel your way to the channel.

If you have assistance towing, that area should have timely response so a gentle grounding can be corrected quickly in most cases.
psneeld is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2021, 03:02 PM   #11
Guru
 
High Wire's Avatar
 
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,700
Marine Traffic shows the OP in Cape May via outside route.
__________________
Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
High Wire is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2021, 06:55 AM   #12
Veteran Member
 
Landfall's Avatar
 
City: Taylor
Vessel Name: Landfall
Vessel Model: Dover Craft/Bruce Roberts 43
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 44
Fishermen are a pain, it’s shallow…..but I love it. It’s like a real life monopoly game. It’s not a fast trip, but interesting.
Landfall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2021, 05:07 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
woodscrew's Avatar
 
City: Barnegat Light
Vessel Name: Northern Star
Vessel Model: Bristol 42 1970
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 100
We had perfect weather and ran outside to Cape May. I am interested in the inside route for those days when it blows easterly making the ocean lumpy while pumping water into the back bays. We do a round trip from Barnegat Light to Florida annually so I like to have options. By the way I have run inside from Barnegat Inlet to Atlantic City many times. This spring one hour after low tide. It’s no problem, a little thin in spots . This time at half tide rising and never saw less than six feet. A lot depends on your boat. If I had open wheel twins I’d be way more cautious. Thanks for all the replies.
woodscrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2021, 02:36 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
City: East Coast
Vessel Name: Inspiration
Vessel Model: 420DB
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 232
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodscrew View Post
Has anyone run the section of the NJ ICW between Cape May and Atlantic City recently? I am anchored up in Brigantine just on the north side of Absecon (AtlanticCity) inlet tonight. Am debating wether to run down the inside to Cape May tomorrow. My only real concern is the shallow areas behind Ocean City. I draw 4’6” with a big skeg and shoe protecting rudder and prop. Not afraid to bump and grind a little. Why do it you may ask? Passenger comfort. Happy wife etc. Gonna stick our nose out the inlet in the morning and see if it has calmed down after all the northeast winds recently. Thanks in advance.
I've done the inside run between BI and AC many times, due to weather conditions. When the tide was not in favor, few years ago, I've witnessed a police boat getting stuck in the middle of the channel. So, watching the tides is very important.

The stretch between AC and CM requires the same approach. Avoid if possible. But if you have to go inside, time the tides well and you should have just enough water for your draft.

With protected running gear, you have some room for error. For the rest of us with exposed wheels, waiting out for better conditions is always another option. I try using NJ ICW as the last resort. The stretch between Manasquan Inlet to Toms River is not a picnic either. My depth alarm goes off every few minutes on that leg.
Alex F is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Trawler Port Captains
Port Captains are TF volunteers who can serve as local guides or assist with local arrangements and information. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. To learn more about this program read here: TF Port Captain Program





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012