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Old 03-26-2019, 11:49 PM   #21
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Gyros are becoming very popular because there's no external fins or parts that can be knocked off by logs or other heavy debris and therefore no drag. However they do require electric power and take several minutes to warm up to speed. So for example if you were at anchor in an active bay and wanted to turn on your gyro, you'd likely have to start your generator to supply the gyro.
There was another thread recently where gyros were discussed in some detail. I recall that they need about 3-5 kWhr to spool up, but after up to speed (about 30 minutes) then they only needed about 1-1.5. This sized for a typical 40ft trawler. So you would need a generator to start it up, but once underway at sea, an engine driven alternator/inverter system could power it.

And that opens up the opportunity to drive it via a large battery bank while anchored, which a lot of people underestimate the need for roll reduction during. Your heavy trawler can carry 12 hours worth of battery storage, then just fire up the genset in the morning. (Uh oh, here comes another battle on batteries, to be followed by anchors and single/twins )

Anyway, once you figure out your needs and your budget, there is alot to choose from these days.
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:49 AM   #22
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Well, thanks for the advice to all of you.
Yes, I would like to have some cerveza with you all whenever we meet. Hope to see you soon on the water.
It has been quite a hassle to get an answer on the Marlow thatís on the market. They just wonít answer. I sent a broker to look her up and weíll see how it goes.
The more viable option now are the 59í GB.
Weíre planning on visiting them next week.
By the way, taking advantage of all your knowledge, my son in law has a 2003 Grand Banks Europa 46í. He says his boat rocks and rolls too much for comfort and wants to install stabilizers. Any advice on type and brand? Thanks in advance.
Bienvenido Peter,

Naiad stabilizers are well regarded, google it, plenty of youtube videos etc.
Plenty of other stabilizers both active and passive on the market as well. You know the Palm Beach boat show is this weekend, not as grand as Lauderdale or Miami but still quite respectable with lots of boats to lay hands on!

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Old 03-30-2019, 08:55 AM   #23
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IF it is not too late, consider the American Tug 43
The 43 has 2 staterooms.
The 36 is great for 2 people and the occasional guests.
The down side of the 36 is the small hanging closet space.
Everything else can be over come with a few more custom cabinets and the under the forward berth access for storage.
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IF it is not too late, consider the American Tug 43
The 43 has 2 staterooms.
The 36 is great for 2 people and the occasional guests.
The down side of the 36 is the small hanging closet space.
Everything else can be over come with a few more custom cabinets and the under the forward berth access for storage.
Seems like this guy is looking at bigger boats in the 55' range... but you're right, he might really enjoy an American Tug 48. they have so much beam, the interior room is incredible. Only problem is finding one; they're pretty rare on the market....
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Seems like this guy is looking at bigger boats in the 55' range... but you're right, he might really enjoy an American Tug 48. they have so much beam, the interior room is incredible. Only problem is finding one; they're pretty rare on the market....
Here are two. One w/o a fly bridge and one with.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/201...ll-02-3490171/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/201...ridge-3165484/

So you see, the 48 can be found....
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I have Naiads on my 55 and they work great. The hydraulic pump runs off of the port engine. Then at anchor we use two "Rocker-Stoppers" to help. They do make a difference but not as effective as a gyro but they require no power. I'd like to suspend them off on a pole to get leverage. A project for another year.
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Hi Juggerknot,
Well, thank you for your comments. I am convinced that stabilizers are a MUST on these type boats to avoid or to lessen the uncomfortable rolling motion.
I have asked for a quote on them already.
Have a nice weekend
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RickyD,
Never heard of the Rocker Stoppers before. I looked them up and understand that with more leverage they would work better.
NAIAD stabilizers seem the way to go. Everyone seems to agree with that. No more looking around then.
Appreciate your comment and advice.
Enjoy your weekend.
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Thanks OldDan1943 and Sledge.
I will look them up. There’s still some time available.
I need to sell my sport fishing boat first. Don’t want to own two boats!!
If all goes well I may become part of your trawler gang by the summer.
Have a great weekend.
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IF it is not too late, consider the American Tug 43
The 43 has 2 staterooms.
The 36 is great for 2 people and the occasional guests.
The down side of the 36 is the small hanging closet space.
Everything else can be over come with a few more custom cabinets and the under the forward berth access for storage.
The AT 43 is an excellent boat.
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The AT 43 is an excellent boat.
The American Tug is a well kept secret brand of boat, on the east coast.
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RickyD,
Never heard of the Rocker Stoppers before. I looked them up and understand that with more leverage they would work better.
NAIAD stabilizers seem the way to go. Everyone seems to agree with that. No more looking around then.
Appreciate your comment and advice.
Enjoy your weekend.
Peter
I bought my first Rocker Stopper from a used chandlery. Used it off the boom of my sailboat for years. After buying the trawler I needed at least one more. The maker was in San Diego. He made it for me out of his garage as he was retired. He gave the business to his son but Iím not sure what happened next. There are similar devices out there. This had a heavy rectangular frame with cut plastic over it so water would pass on the down stroke and close to block on the upstroke. Magma makes one from stainless shutters but I understand they make clanking noises. Iíll look for a phone number if anyone is interested
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