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Old 02-17-2020, 10:10 PM   #8501
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Want it.
2009, CE-A rated, steel, lying Portugal, reasonably priced, beachable on keels, built for distance.


All Trawlers should have “Beachable Keels.”

It just makes sense.
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Old 02-17-2020, 10:40 PM   #8502
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Bill....you have no right to salivate over brisket while eating prime rib. I’d take your boat over that one any time.
Oh, I agree with you there HH. I was just thinking prime rib AND brisket.
Tangent, the boat in the post, is sitting in The South coast of Portugal, right around the corner from the Med and with access to the Euro canals. She is built for both. This is an area with the climate of San Diego and the cost of living of La Paz. And, she would cost you 20% of a Nordy 55, go anywhere that boat could go with the additional benefit of low enough air draft for the canals.
Great boat in a great location...
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:00 PM   #8503
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Klee, could you link to the ad ("2009, CE-A rated, steel, lying Portugal, ...") you are referring to, if you still have it? I am not in the market myself, but curious, particularly the interior layout.
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:08 PM   #8504
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Klee, could you link to the ad ("2009, CE-A rated, steel, lying Portugal, ...") you are referring to, if you still have it? I am not in the market myself, but curious, particularly the interior layout.
Here you go.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...67995726204524
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:42 AM   #8505
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Klee, could you link to the ad ("2009, CE-A rated, steel, lying Portugal, ...") you are referring to, if you still have it? I am not in the market myself, but curious, particularly the interior layout.
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I. Love. This. Boat. She' too big for me, and I can't afford her. But if I could, and the choice came down to this or an older KK39... it's a no brainer for me. It's like someone took a diesel duck and ironed out all of the awkward chunkiness
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Dave: I love the interior layout. And you wrote:
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It's like someone took a diesel duck and ironed out all of the awkward chunkiness.
Perfect description.

I do not see any stabilisers, and no mention of ballast, but it is described as "CE class A", but no mention of how that certification was arrived at. I had a look at the site that makes the kits; it mentions that certification is possible, but that this must be done by a third part. And the ad for this boat does not say if this was actually done.

Absolutely gorgeous though and excellent layout, for me.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:58 PM   #8507
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All Trawlers should have “Beachable Keels.”

It just makes sense.
Or live in Alaska where there is an abundance of tidal grids.
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:54 PM   #8508
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Here's another Benford design... Not pleasing to the eyes, and probably hard to dock unless you dock by feel from the pilothouse.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...esign-3510681/
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Old 02-18-2020, 06:21 PM   #8509
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Here's another Benford design... Not pleasing to the eyes, and probably hard to dock unless you dock by feel from the pilothouse.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...esign-3510681/
That boat is meant as a marina creature. Not meant to go to sea, or even the ICW its intended use is as a live aboard with usual hookups
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Old 02-18-2020, 06:40 PM   #8510
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What makes you think it’s a marina boat? It’s got two generators and has 820 gallons of freshwater onboard! I think it’s set up to spend lots of time at anchor or traveling the waterway. It’s not for open seas, but should do just fine on bays, sounds and rivers. I like it: it’s just what the owner wanted and looks to be well executed.
As fo docking, that’s why remote controls are getting so popular, CCTV will also give a view of the side.
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:12 PM   #8511
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This boat came through our marina . It’s definitely a work of art. He plays a tune on the pipe organ before leaving the marina.
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:22 PM   #8512
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:33 PM   #8513
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What makes you think it’s a marina boat? It’s got two generators and has 820 gallons of freshwater onboard! I think it’s set up to spend lots of time at anchor or traveling the waterway. It’s not for open seas, but should do just fine on bays, sounds and rivers. I like it: it’s just what the owner wanted and looks to be well executed.
As fo docking, that’s why remote controls are getting so popular, CCTV will also give a view of the side.
+1 not all boats are intended to cross oceans, some are meant to be on lakes, rivers and waterways. I would love to own this one here.

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Old 02-18-2020, 07:52 PM   #8514
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Here's another Benford design... Not pleasing to the eyes, and probably hard to dock unless you dock by feel from the pilothouse.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...esign-3510681/

Are you equating Benford to Branson???
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:06 PM   #8515
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Dave: I love the interior layout. And you wrote:

Perfect description.

I do not see any stabilisers, and no mention of ballast, but it is described as "CE class A", but no mention of how that certification was arrived at. I had a look at the site that makes the kits; it mentions that certification is possible, but that this must be done by a third part. And the ad for this boat does not say if this was actually done.

Absolutely gorgeous though and excellent layout, for me.
I am not sure what all is required in the rating but beyond design/build criteria I know there is an incline test required by a third party after launch. I have seen the evidence for this on my Libra.
I suspect Tangent is ballasted as she weighs 72000# at 52 feet and draws 5 1/2 despite her beam.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:18 PM   #8516
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My gosh!!! Sinful is all I can say, Sinful in terms of anial clean. I could never exist comfortably in so much clean, like a hospital suite!!
But near a perfect example of boat porn as one could ask for. Pure bountiful in all respects.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:25 PM   #8517
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Here's another Benford design... Not pleasing to the eyes, and probably hard to dock unless you dock by feel from the pilothouse.
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...esign-3510681/
I just get tickled every time I see a Benford design. That vessel and it’s fit out is truly art afloat. Love to have it, a dream live-aboard.
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That boat is meant as a marina creature.
So all this stuff is not really hooked up and for the kids to play boat with? Right.
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Long time reader, first time poster. This is my favorite thread here.

This is a bit off the beaten path, first twin sail drive I've seen on a trawlerish boat:

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