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Old 12-08-2019, 11:51 PM   #8121
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Take it up with the broker, his numbers:

Chauvin, La PRICE REDUCTION!! Used Steel Trawler converted into long range live aboard cruiser. First class long range cruising trawler For Sale. Proven and tested as great sea boat with economical long range cruising ability.Runs on aprox 1 gal per mile. Bottom blasted to white metal and painted.Bilges blasted and painted. All machinery removed and replaced with new. All new cabin converted into living quarters. Ice hold converted into additional living quarters with laundry room and head shower.This is a first class conversion for long range cruising.This boat is exceptionally strong built and no expense spared to keep boat maintenance free with lots of stainless steel everywhere.MUST SEE!!!

Equipment
Bow thruster.
New Scandia 550hp with 500 hours. 8GPH @9 knts.
New Twin Disc 6:1 Gear.
Kubota 40 kw.
Cummins 855 30 KW.
30,000 mile cruising range.
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Furuno 45 mile Radar with Chart plotter [2] Chart plotter.
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Sleeps 10.
6 Ton central AC/Heat.
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Ahead Brand USCG approved heads [2], direct discharge, no holding tank required.
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Includes 15hp outbord inflatable and 25ft rigid boats
Bloody Nora, an 855 as a genset?
That's what we have as our main.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:54 PM   #8122
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Just a little finishing required and it has a Gardner.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boa...ab4a327e40-001
She'd want to be a lot further along to justify that price
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:41 AM   #8123
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:20 PM   #8124
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https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...awler-3615129/

My new favorite.... for now, wish it was priced in the 600s, I would be getting serious about it.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:27 PM   #8125
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My new favorite.... for now, wish it was priced in the 600s, I would be getting serious about it.

Sheís a beauty, just not sure whatís going on with those ceilings..
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:28 PM   #8126
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Also, in the million dollar range, I really like RowDayO

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Old 12-09-2019, 08:25 PM   #8127
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Check this one out guys. A deluxe, luxury trawler look with a planing hull and twin diesels, but is that a built-in 60 Yamaha O/B get home engine with a walk-around swim platform? Talk about ease of maintenance. Someone help me believe my eyes!

https://eaglecraft.bc.ca/portfolio-i...house-cruiser/
The Eaglecraft boats are ubiquitous around here, as the builder is located here. Most are built for commercial work such as water taxis and fishing boats but they do make some nice recreational boats as well.
The outboard at the back is used for going at trolling speeds while fishing. Generally recreational boats use trolling valves but this is another option.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:46 PM   #8128
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Also, in the million dollar range, I really like RowDayO

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I like it, but nearly a 1000 horsepower to cruise at 10 knots on a 68 footer doesn't really make sense to me.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:56 PM   #8129
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Sumner Craft,
How many know what a Sumner Craft is?
I didn’t until I bought one.
It’s a 29’ composit wood and FG.
It’s initially built like a strip planked wood boat.
Plywood sections are cut out like bulkheads and attached to a strongback as in typical wood boat construction. Then the planking is laid on the cross sections that give the hull it’s shape. Next the outside of the hull is fiberglassed in the typical way. Then the whole structure is stiffened to stay aligned while being inverted and re-aligned. Right-side-up and again aligned the formers (like bulkheads) are removed. Then the inside of the hull is fiberglassed. The resulting hull is finished partly like a FG boat and partly like a wood boat.

Looking at pics #3 and 4 show a keel shape that throws water sideways into an advancing propeller blade ... like a jet engine’s stator blades. Extra thrust being the expected advantage.
By the way this was a 1961 boat. Made in Amitiville N.Y.
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Mr. b. Agreed and 1000 gallons of fuel won't get you very far...
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:22 PM   #8131
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Sumner Craft,
How many know what a Sumner Craft is?
I didn’t until I bought one.
It’s a 29’ composit wood and FG.
It’s initially built like a strip planked wood boat.
Plywood sections are cut out like bulkheads and attached to a strongback as in typical wood boat construction. Then the planking is laid on the cross sections that give the hull it’s shape. Next the outside of the hull is fiberglassed in the typical way. Then the whole structure is stiffened to stay aligned while being inverted and re-aligned. Right-side-up and again aligned the formers (like bulkheads) are removed. Then the inside of the hull is fiberglassed. The resulting hull is finished partly like a FG boat and partly like a wood boat.
Eric - I vaguely recall Sumner Craft from the 1960's. Might have read about it in a boating magazine. I was addicted to reading those mags while in my teens. When did you own a Sumner?
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:33 PM   #8132
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2005.
I think Sumner Craft built more motorsailers than cruisers. The motorsailers were mostly 31’. I use the word cruiser because that’s what she was and is. I had numerous original brochures promoting the boats as open blue water boats claiming great seaworthyness. She was one-of-a-kind.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:05 PM   #8133
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This post sent me into an hour plus Youtube antique diesel engine excursion.....
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:15 PM   #8134
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Interesting boats

If I was really going to go places Iíd get this boat. Itís kind of a bigger version of what I have, but with better outside seating, way more interior room, nice size engine space and work bench, big galley, nice pilothouse seating area. These boats supposed to be fuel efficient with great range, and stable underway with the sails up and decent wind. Interesting boomless mainsail rig. Not sure how that works?

Most probably wonít like it because itís a motorsailer with most of the living space down below, but I think itís a neat boat.

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Old 12-10-2019, 07:09 PM   #8135
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From Seahorse's website:

EASY TO USE BOOMLESS RIG: The furling mainsail on the Mandarin 52 is sheeted to an atwarthship spreader bar located between double backstays. This is an ideal rig for a motorsailer. The dangerous and often troublesome boom is eliminated and jibing is about as exciting as moving your handkerchief from one pocket to another. Furling and reefing are handled the same as the genoa.

Interestingly, though, there are two other Mandarin 52's for sale on Boats.com and both of these come WITH booms.

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Interesting boomless mainsail rig. Not sure how that works?
As a motor sailor you'll know that you spend most of your time sheeted in. This is because the apparent wind, thanks to your motoring speed, is generally well forward of the beam. Unless it's piping up and then you don't need to motor and just sail.

Which I don't think this will do well. In fact, it can become quite unruly in anything above.... say 10-15. So down it comes, and now you're running jib alone and you're autopilot is working it's a55 off and the batteries are heading south in a hurry. And you lose the stabilization it brings. So as a long time sailor with quite a few miles of off shore in occasionally challenging conditions this is a NO.

Just learn to deal with the "dangerous boom". It's fine. Or just go power and get some stabilizers which is the road I'll be heading down.
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The simple solution for most motor sailors especially inshore is a fully battened mainsail.

The camber is created by batten tension and if motoring directly into the wind the sail does not sake and flog itself to death.

As most folks cruise at a fixed RPM the sail simply adds to the boat speed when the wind is favorable.
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The simple solution for most motor sailors especially inshore is a fully battened mainsail.

The camber is created by batten tension and if motoring directly into the wind the sail does not sake and flog itself to death.

As most folks cruise at a fixed RPM the sail simply adds to the boat speed when the wind is favorable.

Iím gonna guess that furled mainsail is not battened, unless itís vertically battened?
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:30 AM   #8139
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As a motor sailor you'll know that you spend most of your time sheeted in. This is because the apparent wind, thanks to your motoring speed, is generally well forward of the beam. Unless it's piping up and then you don't need to motor and just sail.

Which I don't think this will do well. In fact, it can become quite unruly in anything above.... say 10-15. So down it comes, and now you're running jib alone and you're autopilot is working it's a55 off and the batteries are heading south in a hurry. And you lose the stabilization it brings. So as a long time sailor with quite a few miles of off shore in occasionally challenging conditions this is a NO.

Just learn to deal with the "dangerous boom". It's fine. Or just go power and get some stabilizers which is the road I'll be heading down.

When itís really windy and I need some stabilization Iíve used just the jib with good results. Itís much easier for me to furl up the jib in a blow than the in-mast mainsail.
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The camber is created by batten tension and if motoring directly into the wind the sail does not sake and flog itself to death.
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