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Old 01-13-2017, 09:20 AM   #3901
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:20 AM   #3902
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Really nice boat, overall.

Few items I would not enjoy:

1. Pilot house windows too confining for unobstructed visuals. Though, great for really heavy seas.

2. Don't think engine room had stand-up height?? I require that; whether stand-up head room under a sole or stand-up room by having hatches wide open in the sole.

3. Those anchor-at-rest positions are a problem waiting to happen!

Numbers 1 and 3 are why I like to pilot from flying bridge. Even if that pilot station were available I'd still like the anchors in completely different at-rest locations.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:25 AM   #3903
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:54 AM   #3904
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Really nice boat, overall.

Few items I would not enjoy:

1. Pilot house windows too confining for unobstructed visuals. Though, great for really heavy seas.

2. Don't think engine room had stand-up height?? I require that; whether stand-up head room under a sole or stand-up room by having hatches wide open in the sole.

3. Those anchor-at-rest positions are a problem waiting to happen!

Numbers 1 and 3 are why I like to pilot from flying bridge. Even if that pilot station were available I'd still like the anchors in completely different at-rest locations.
The windows raised my eyebrows too. Not to mention all the windshield wipers would break my wiper blade budget. It really could use a flybridge.

You would think with a 5 1/2"+ draft the engine room would be standup but it looks to me to be about 5'.

Yep, the anchors don't very dock friendly. Actually, they look like they want to bite you.
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:55 AM   #3905
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Anything by Charles Neville is great!

The Jolly Man 57 should be a fast FD boat for her length and she ain't short.
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:27 AM   #3906
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Expensive per foot. Nice boat for cops! Not too bad if sailing solo with lots of cash and big charge cards. Not my cup o' tea.
BTW: Refreshing honesty from reviewer regarding accommodations and other items. However, his feeling that water conditions were on the rough (i.e. choppy) side simply does not pan out. I've seen hot tubs with more turbulence... when "adult" fun time was in progress! - LOL
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:01 PM   #3907
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trawler conversion - hull might pound and slam quite a bit offshore, but systems look well done.
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:11 PM   #3908
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Looking at that Paravane setup, I thought a center mast was needed to distribute the loads generated? Maybe I misunderstand.
It doesn't need to be a centre mast, the a-frame will work to transfer the loads into the ship but it must be something a lot more substantial than the flimsy square-tube structure on this boat. This setup is perhaps okay at anchor in light weather, but it's not going to hang together in a big sea.
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A $160,000 conversion opportunity for that person with 25 people in the family ;-). Really - though, it does have sleeping accommodations for 25 people. Check it out!



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Old 01-13-2017, 02:29 PM   #3910
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A $160,000 conversion opportunity for that person with 25 people in the family ;-). Really - though, it does have sleeping accommodations for 25 people. Check it out!



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I could live on that. Maybe Richard on Dauntless would help me bring it back. [emoji23]

I'm surprised it's a fiberglass hull and not steel.
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:13 PM   #3911
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Looking at that Paravane setup, I thought a center mast was needed to distribute the loads generated? Maybe I misunderstand.
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Dude: I was glad to see this example because I don't want a compression post in the center of my deck behind the pilot house, essentially dead center of my salon windows and no bulkhead below. A keel stepped standpipe would be in the middle of the salon. I figured to move the stresses out to the cap rail in just this fashion, and this is the first design I've seen do it without a towering center structure. Exactly what I had in mind, and the paravane polls can still be laid back for bridge clearance if necessary. Of course, gussets, local reinforcement and careful selection of materials is more important than ever. Now if I can just cough up the bucks and get Tad to do his magic.
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:19 PM   #3912
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It doesn't need to be a centre mast, the a-frame will work to transfer the loads into the ship but it must be something a lot more substantial than the flimsy square-tube structure on this boat. This setup is perhaps okay at anchor in light weather, but it's not going to hang together in a big sea.
True, but maybe you could send them a note telling them that the rig might be appropriate for something less weighty, like Oh, say a Krogen Manatee, and offer to design them something with some beef! I'd take the old kit off your hands later on.
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:23 PM   #3913
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So if Tad designs it, will you build it?

That's the difference between me and you-- you can actually build stuff like this. Well, there are more differences, like the fact that you are about 6'5" and outweigh me by maybe 100lbs, but all that notwithstanding, you can build stuff.

I love Tad's sketch of my boat (that he did out of the goodness of his heart btw) for my paravane idea, but there is just not enough robust fiberglass to mount that structure IMO. Moving the stresses out to the cap rails would probably give enough strength but I don't think I would like the looks of a squared off structure on my boat.

Do you have a mock up of the proposed paravane idea for your boat? I know you do, Mr Photoshop.
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:31 PM   #3914
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Cruising around the other marina in Rockport Tx. They have cooler looking boats.

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A sailboat with an oxygen tent. Not as cool.
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[QUOTE=cardude01;513204]Cruising around the other marina in Rockport Tx. They have cooler looking boats.

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Looks like a „regular" Diesel Duck to my eyes. Nice!
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:07 PM   #3916
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Yep, the anchors don't very dock friendly. Actually, they look like they want to bite you.
Total surprise!!! This thread is NOT GOING to address those anchors??? Has the Anchor cat have the experts tongue tied ? They by them selves would warrent a thread or continuance of the many threads. Really enjoy seeing the anchor discussions reach a fever pitch.

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Old 01-13-2017, 08:28 PM   #3917
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Total surprise!!! This thread is NOT GOING to address those anchors??? Has the Anchor cat have the experts tongue tied ? They by them selves would warrent a thread or continuance of the many threads. Really enjoy seeing the anchor discussions reach a fever pitch.

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I`ll bite. If the anchor looks like it will bite an unwary dock walker, surely it will bite the bottom away from the dock.
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Not sure about the anchors but stepping through the photos it seems to me there may be evidence of some pretty significant galvanic corrosion going on in the area of the bow.

I'll see if I can link the picture....
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Looks like this was "pre-paint". Any ideas what going on here?

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resi...=1462809667000

Ok. I can open this in a new window or tab but I'm not sure how to get it to preview here. Any ideas?
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:09 PM   #3920
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'Glare' off the anchors?
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