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06-16-2021, 07:09 AM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,145
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Good By Commodave
I am pretty sure the moderators will be sending out a bunch of warnings about the number of people who had well wishes to Dave.( you are not supposed to comment on "for sale" postings)
I'm sorry to hear Dave is selling or has sold his boat. I have followed his posts for years and knew he was having back problems when he couldn't finish some of his projects.
Fare Thee Well Dave. We can only hope you will continue with your posts and share your knowledge with us even though you are currently boatels.
pete
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06-16-2021, 07:16 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,034
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"You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave".
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Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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06-16-2021, 11:33 AM
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Guru
City: Madeira Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Vessel Model: Schucker mini-trawler
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,228
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jleonard
"You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave".
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Ditto... and fair winds too...
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06-16-2021, 11:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Salty Seagull
Vessel Model: SSP Type 211
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 157
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Aw, sorry to hear this. I hope he stays on the forums. He has been active and one of the more helpful contributors from what I've seen.
As they say in Russia: Семь футов под килем!
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06-16-2021, 12:02 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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Dave isn't going anywhere.
His recent posting indicates he is sell boat #x and looking for # x+1.
I am sure he is also an Eagles fan.
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06-16-2021, 12:08 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Seneca Lake NY
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,808
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
Dave isn't going anywhere.
His recent posting indicates he is sell boat #x and looking for # x+1.
I am sure he is also an Eagles fan.
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Exactly!
Should be wishing Dave good luck with his next boat ( not good bye)
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Don
2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
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06-16-2021, 12:43 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,993
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Dave is getting a smaller low profile boat so MIL can see the view beyond.
Besides, I thought it was you can check in, but you can never leave unless scraping paint.
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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06-16-2021, 01:23 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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I am not planning on going anywhere, unless you all throw me off the forum because we will not have a trawler anymore. I have been having back issues for several years, 11 back procedures in the last couple of years, and I need to slow down on the big work on the boat. There isn’t any marine diesel mechanics here but there are gas engine mechanics. So we are looking at some express cruisers. We need a faster boat so we can get home more quickly in an emergency. My mom lives with us and just turned 101. Unfortunately with the trawler it takes 3 to 5 hours to get anywhere here. With an express cruiser we can return much faster if she needs us. So hopefully you all don’t kick me to the curb for getting a non trawler…
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06-16-2021, 01:25 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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And yes our President is gone, virtually. It is still at our house but the new owner is going to get it next week and cruise it to it’s new home. Sad to see it go but excited to look for boat #24…
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06-16-2021, 01:39 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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Congrats on the sale of boat number seventy-five! You’re not allowed to go anywhere.
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06-16-2021, 01:44 PM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,538
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Definitely sounds like it's time for a faster boat and no more diesels. Beyond the express cruisers, there are some fast enough gas motoryacht types at 40 feet and under out there. And those are usually cheap too, as not a lot of people want the gas ones. They're not quite as fast as a lot of the express cruisers, but they also give more space and comfort, sometimes on par with a similar size trawler. A lot of the express cruisers are also pretty bad at going slow when you want to save gas.
As an example, my boat with twin gas 454s will happily cruise at 17 - 18 kts all day without beating on the engines. Some of the motoryacht types are even a bit faster depending on hull design, weight and engine choice. But by not having a fast express cruiser hull that would be happy cruising at 25+, it's also quite well behaved at 6.5 - 7 kts.
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06-16-2021, 02:39 PM
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Guru
City: Bainbridge Island/Petersburg Alaska
Vessel Name: Oz
Vessel Model: Bluewater 40' RPH 1979
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 514
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Aw Geez! I was hoping to get updates on how your Lion Batteries worked out for you.
Tator
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06-16-2021, 02:51 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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We did a sea trial and survey Monday on a Formula 34PC with 7.4 MPIs in it. They wouldn’t turn over 3100RPMs and then we found the entire engine room bulkheads and stringers would peg the moisture meters. That deal was toast. We are going to look at a 36PC tomorrow. It has 502s in it. I hope it is in better condition.
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06-16-2021, 03:17 PM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,937
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There are some fast diesel boats out there like a Back Cove, Sabre, etc. At my yacht club, the gas powered boats seem to have never ending engine issues. I don't mean to second-guess Comodave, as I'm sure he knows volumes more than me on most subjects. I just question why going faster means going to gas. There are plenty of diesel boats that are not trawlers (like mine, even though it's called a Mainship Trawler)
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06-16-2021, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member
City: KEY COLONY BEACH
Vessel Name: Izzy Rose
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 49
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
I am not planning on going anywhere, unless you all throw me off the forum because we will not have a trawler anymore. I have been having back issues for several years, 11 back procedures in the last couple of years, and I need to slow down on the big work on the boat. There isn’t any marine diesel mechanics here but there are gas engine mechanics. So we are looking at some express cruisers. We need a faster boat so we can get home more quickly in an emergency. My mom lives with us and just turned 101. Unfortunately with the trawler it takes 3 to 5 hours to get anywhere here. With an express cruiser we can return much faster if she needs us. So hopefully you all don’t kick me to the curb for getting a non trawler…
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Dave,
With your bad back and need for speed you should consider a power catamaran. Softer ride for the back and fast. We have a Glacier Bay and we love the speed and ride.
Bud
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06-16-2021, 03:34 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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Going faster doesn’t mean going gas. We don’t have a marine diesel mechanic available here. There are gas engine mechanics here, just not diesel. We may end up with a diesel boat but that means I have to do the maintenance on the engines. And that is what I am trying to get away from. I have a great,short, skinny mechanic that works on gas engines and will come to the house to work on our boat. While I love working on the boat, it is getting to be time to hire some of the work done.
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06-16-2021, 03:35 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bud
Dave,
With your bad back and need for speed you should consider a power catamaran. Softer ride for the back and fast. We have a Glacier Bay and we love the speed and ride.
Bud
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We looked at some. They don’t have the cabin area that we are looking for. And then there is the price….
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06-16-2021, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
City: KEY COLONY BEACH
Vessel Name: Izzy Rose
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 49
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Comodave
We looked at some. They don’t have the cabin area that we are looking for. And then there is the price….
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Thats true. What are looking at gas outboards or inboards?
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06-16-2021, 04:09 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,129
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Inboards. The one we will look at tomorrow has 502s in it. We are going to, maybe, look at a Formula 41PC with 450 Cummins in it. Nice engines but then I have to maintain them since they are diesels. Time will tell.
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06-16-2021, 04:47 PM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 7,538
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backinblue
There are some fast diesel boats out there like a Back Cove, Sabre, etc. At my yacht club, the gas powered boats seem to have never ending engine issues. I don't mean to second-guess Comodave, as I'm sure he knows volumes more than me on most subjects. I just question why going faster means going to gas. There are plenty of diesel boats that are not trawlers (like mine, even though it's called a Mainship Trawler)
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A lot of gas engines end up in boats that are perpetually under-maintained. The engines get abused, damaged, aren't well cared for and then people wonder why they never work well or reliably. With good maintenance, mine are pretty much dead reliable. Save for a couple (very few) carb issues over the years, in the whole time I've known this boat, every engine issue it's had has been something diesels are equally susceptible to (like a failed fuel pump or a cooling system problem).
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