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Old 02-04-2018, 08:22 AM   #61
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FF,
do you use the propane for the reefers only when stationary or while "at sea"
reason i ask is in my rv i had to make sure she was level to properly work, and that was level as the fridge sits, not the rv itself

is all well with a little rockin and rollin or is it electric when out ?
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:51 AM   #62
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It has been pretty thoroughly documented that the exchange bottles are more expensive per pound of fuel than having a tank refilled. The retailer is trying to keep the price below $20, so you are likely to receive about 15# of gas in an exchange cylinder vs. the full 20# in a refill. The weight difference is obvious if you have access to one of each, a refill and an exchange. In the exchange you also lose on the other end. Unless you run your tank empty, you are turning it in with some propane in the tank. If you decide to exchange when you are "getting low" but not empty, you are giving back fuel you have already paid for.

You can find many articles on this subject. Here is a link to one.

Propane Exchange vs. Refill: Myth Busted - Moving Insider
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:42 AM   #63
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. Ok, back to Electric vs Gas vs Charcoal.

I have a rail mounted Weber 1200 with stock griddle 1/2 so I can grill or griddle (is that word as a verb?). I really miss low temp smoking of brisket, pork butt and so on. I have a very small iron skillet that I am going to try as a wood chip pan with my Weber with the meat (after a quick All sided braise) to smoke. Perhaps if I torch the chips, that will work.

Two of my dock mates have Traeger Smokers as in the link. Should my attempt be unsuccessful I may go with one of those. I have heard of an electric smoke generator that with the Weber might work. Really, really hard to find proper Fort Worth Texas BBQ here in FL. Near St Pete in Gulf Port there is a place, but that is all I have discovered.


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Gaggenau and Miele would be my favorites. Kenyon (220 only) one step behind. Also, Fire Magic and Electri-Chef.e.
Geez!!

What about us Po Folks? For the price of the one of these I could have a helicopter deliver my custom prepared meals.

But thanks because I now know that I should have paid more attention in school.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:24 PM   #65
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Geez!!

What about us Po Folks? For the price of the one of these I could have a helicopter deliver my custom prepared meals.

But thanks because I now know that I should have paid more attention in school.
I did also mention the T-Fal Optigrill at $120 at Bed Bath and Beyond with 20% off coupon.

The top end electric grills are like top end cooktops and not cheap. Kenyon is the most moderate in price and still around $1000.
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You paid attention enough to have a nice boat, so what if you can’t grill steaks. LMAO
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I did also mention the T-Fal Optigrill at $120 at Bed Bath and Beyond with 20% off coupon. .
That is not a proper grill.
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It has been pretty thoroughly documented that the exchange bottles are more expensive per pound of fuel than having a tank refilled. ]
I used to agree with you until I had to go through the running around, wasted time and expense of getting out of date bottles recertified.

And let's not forget rust issues with steel tanks which is no longer my problem.
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Me too. My three propane bottles last about 3 years, so i never run out.

Most of all, I've never had a steak cooked on an electric grill that was as good as gas.
Iron frying pan for my steaks. Get it smoking hot with high temp oil, drop the steak in to form a crust on both sides, turn down to medium heat, cook to temperature. Add onions to the pan while the meat is cooking. Yum. Try it. You may never go back to grilling a steak.
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[QUOTE=tadhana;633063]It has been pretty thoroughly documented that the exchange bottles are more expensive per pound of fuel than having a tank refilled.

In Australia exchange LPG bottles are filled by weight not volume . 8.5kg as volume is 9kg
Its only a matter of another 2 or 3 years till all bulk fill stations will cease due to safety issues .
Even now those employees who are trained to fill bottles are getting fewer and fewer .due to the cost of training and labor
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We have propane BBQ and propane range (even though our builder tried to talk us out of it), but electric oven and electric Beni Hana table. Two aluminium propane bottles (main and reserve) in a propane locker. 8 gallons each, as I recall (about 50% taller than the standard / common size). We have never run out of propane. When one bottle is empty, the second bottle will last for about a month of daily use. As for electric, I personally don't think the flavor is as good as flame cooked.
Flame? Radiant heat is what grills best. Charcoal fires cook by radiant heat. Flames heat air. The heated air cooks. Radiant is far better. My opinion, of course.
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Gaggenau and Miele would be my favorites. Kenyon (220 only) one step behind. Also, Fire Magic and Electri-Chef.

Now, going to toss one more out for people just grilling for two and only occasionally. T-Fal Optigrill. Beats any Foreman. Use on the kitchen or galley counter easily. Grills steaks or burgers or hot dogs well. Grills pork and chicken well also but not a grilled exterior so I like to then put them in a skillet briefly before serving.

Oh, if you want a good countertop oven, I highly recommend Breville Smart Oven. Don't know how smart it is as I don't use those functions, but have done some incredible Prime Rib in one.
We use an Oster countertop oven, very similar to the Breviile. We have successfully cooked everything from prime ribs to cookies. I even bake terrific baguettes in this oven using a clay covered baker. Yum. The damn thing cost $80 at Costco.Click image for larger version

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Actually I’ve never had a bad steak on the boat anchored out enjoying life. Life is good.
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Well bit the bullet and purchased a marine electric BBQ same make and model as my LPG one to go on the fly bridge . Decision was made to go electric as its easy to just plug in no pluming or bottles needed .So is that just BB and I that have 5 or more BBQs on hand
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I even bake terrific baguettes in this oven using a clay covered baker. Yum. The damn thing cost $80 at Costco.Attachment 72686
Looks great, can I get that baguette recipe please.

We do this every few days, ciabatta like and cooked in a cast iron pot

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/...no-knead-bread

, but I do love bagguettes and batards.
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What is a good electric grill? I have gas on the boat but on my condo's lanai I am required to use electric. I have the small Weber Q electric and don't like it.


We have a Gaggenau electric grill built into our cockpit.

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That is not a proper grill.
Have you ever used one? You might be surprised. When it's pouring down rain and you're ready for your steak now, might just find it quite acceptable. Before trying one, I would have agreed with you. Not what we normally use, but it works.
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Iron frying pan for my steaks. Get it smoking hot with high temp oil, drop the steak in to form a crust on both sides, turn down to medium heat, cook to temperature. Add onions to the pan while the meat is cooking. Yum. Try it. You may never go back to grilling a steak.
Many chefs would agree with you. A lot start with that and then put the pan and steak into the oven to finish.
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I refill and retain my 2 probably OEM bottles supplying the stove, they came with the boat and precisely fit retaining brackets.
Gameco, located in Auburn Sydney,not only refill but also service bottles, as well as supply everything LPG and NG related. If out of the 10 year certification,they test and re-certify, replacing the valve if necessary. A refill is cheaper than a swap,a small bonus.The date of certification is stamped into the bottle.
I refill the bottle for the bbq too,but if it needs re-certifying I use Swap n Go, just got a brand new bottle for one which was out of time, no extra. It doesn`t need to fit a precise retainer system, so a different shape matters less.
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Does anyone use the gauge that screws on to the bottle and the hose then screws into it, I’m told it helps not running out of gas?
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