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09-28-2015, 05:33 PM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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That is the "dinghy". I've had it for years, and couldn't part with it. Shaded, protected from spray, steering wheel, etc. It will eventually be featured on the blog in detail. I custom made it from a 1963 aluminum boat.
According to my research the mast/boom combo was rated at 500 lbs. I know of people putting in larger cranes, but thought if the original was designed around 500, it's because he didn't want anymore weight than that up top! It weighs in at 500 lbs. I have added te foam collar etc. to prepare it for tender duty.
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10-11-2015, 07:41 AM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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After following the FL 120 rebuild thread, I thought this would be a good time to mention that my fuel tanks are 1/2" fiberglass, so they didn't need replacing during engine room refit.
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10-11-2015, 07:46 AM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sealife
After following the FL 120 rebuild thread, I thought this would be a good time to mention that my fuel tanks are 1/2" fiberglass, so they didn't need replacing during engine room refit.
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I assume that means they were replaced by the previous owner.
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10-11-2015, 08:06 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
I assume that means they were replaced by the previous owner.
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Scotts tanks are factory fiberglass. They made the change to steel the next year or so after Sealife was built. 
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10-11-2015, 11:14 AM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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I'm #61. Hull #66 there were several changes. The lehman was a 135, there are several one piece fiberglass molds incorporated,walls etc. foam filled, steel tanks....
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10-11-2015, 11:57 AM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
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That's interesting information, why do you think the change was made. I think I would prefer the f/g tanks. I 'm fairly sure the Manatee's all came with stainless steel water, fuel and holding tanks, at least the three or four I've seen where built that way. Not a good choice for a holding tank, ours was replaced with plastic during our purchase survey because the tank top was corroded and leaking.
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10-11-2015, 12:47 PM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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Don't know. All tanks on mine are glass except holding. I believe it was SS, but previous owner changed out for 40 gallon plastic. I did have alot of custom made SS elbows in various system piping I replaced as well. I have heard rumors off various Krogens with leaking fresh water tanks. Mi believe they crack if filled to quickly and/or the vent becomes plugged. Maybe the same for fuel was the thought?!?
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10-11-2015, 12:59 PM
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
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This thread and the one on 42 KK Scout are an interesting comparison. It would be enlightening to get the two owners together to discuss their approaches to refreshing and rebuilding their respective 42s.
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10-11-2015, 01:36 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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[QUOTE=HiDHo;378261]That's interesting information, why do you think the change was made. I think I would prefer the f/g tanks...[QUOTE]
I think it was a production decision to go to metal fuel tanks. As Scott mentioned (he's hull #61 and built in 1984), on hull #66, Krogen made some changes as they ramped up production. The metal tanks were manufactured off the boat and dropped in as the boat was assembled. Our hull is #120 (1987), but the back of the instrument panel indicates it was to go into hull #125. I can't imagine what a zoo the yard must of been when they built and completed 20 plus KK42s in one year for 3 years running. QC?
Here's an aproximate list of the KK42 during the high build years.
1984 16 to 18
1985 20 to 26
1986 24
1987 26
1988 11
1989 3
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10-11-2015, 03:32 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
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The change to steel fuel tanks may have come at the time Krogen moved production from Chien Hwa to other boatyards due to his concern over quality. He is reputed to have said "no more Hwa yards for me".
It is surprising he went with the black iron/steel tanks.
I found a 1997 Yahoo post some time ago that is attributed to Bill Kimley, the owner of Seahorse Yachts, that discusses some of the history of Taiwanese boat yards. Not sure how accurate it is and in some cases it conflicts with the Aug 1998 PassageMaker article on "Taiwan's Venerable Trawlers". For example, the PM article attributes ownership of Chung Hwa, Chien Hwa and Fu Hwa to Sinclair Wen. The Yahoo post says the yards were owned by Y.F. Lee. Possibly, they were co-owners or partners.
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10-11-2015, 03:47 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
The change to steel fuel tanks may have come at the time Krogen moved production from Chien Hwa to other boatyards due to his concern over quality. He is reputed to have said "no more Hwa yards for me"...
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I had heard the same but I'm not sure when they may have moved. Ours was built, 1987, in a Chien Hwa yard.
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10-11-2015, 06:59 PM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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Sunchaser, I don't know about Scout's owner, but my refit was driven by time and budget to create a reliable boat to live and cruise on for the next decade. Recouping some of my expenses was always in the back of my mind. I figure the boat will be 40 years old, and we all know buyers like cheap and clean, I think I will be positioned OK to sell. By then it will probably be a cash sale and who knows about insurance by then. So Perfect or better then new was never the goal. Besides she will probably get beat up pretty good with our crusing aspirations and I don't want to worry about my next wax job so to speak.
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10-11-2015, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
City: Sitka
Vessel Name: Rob n' Lee
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42' #192
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What an undertaking! Congratulations and thanks for sharing the blog and the photos.
Was the genset in the ER photos? I may have overlooked it.
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10-12-2015, 07:25 AM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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Not any good photos, I really need to go thru and do all the after/finished photos. I kind of slacked on that, and now I've filled the boat with spares etc. for our trip, so it's a bit more cluttered.
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10-12-2015, 07:30 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
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Scott: What is that store bought ladder doing there? Someone steal that custom stainless steal one you had when we saw Sealife?
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10-12-2015, 08:59 AM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
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Yea Larry, that's what I mean....need to get some better after pics. That was before the flooring went over the plywood too.
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10-28-2015, 06:06 PM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
Join Date: Nov 2013
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HiDHo/Bill,
As promised here is the link to take you to the blog post about the Aluminum Pilot house dingy:
https://caribbeansealife.wordpress.c...inum-princess/
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10-28-2015, 06:45 PM
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Guru
City: Baltimore
Vessel Name: Sea life
Vessel Model: Krogen 42 #61
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Forgot to mention....leaving for Bahamas in AM. So limited connectivity for any responses, questions... Be back in Key West beginning of December, before heading South.
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10-28-2015, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member
City: Sitka
Vessel Name: Rob n' Lee
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42' #192
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Looks to me that your Nickname should be "McGyver". That is a compliment!
Glen
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