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Old 04-01-2021, 05:05 AM   #1
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Think you know Grand Banks ? What about the Chantyman ?

Think you know Grand Banks ? What about the Chantyman ?

Legacy in wood: Before the first Grand Banks, the 36', even before famous SPRAY, American Marine Ltd built the 35' Chantyman model at Hong Kong Junk Bay in the early 1960s. You an still find some of the original fleet cruising in ports and passages aroung the world, including Plowman, shown here in Puget Sound, WA.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:45 AM   #2
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Thats a pretty boat but I like the more modern lines a bit better. I can't imagine owning a 60 year old woodie!!

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Chanty is not doing it for me.
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Old 04-01-2021, 02:36 PM   #4
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Pilou,

You have a great collection of GB/AM advertising materials, data sheets, and photos! I have always liked the "tough/stout" look of the Chantyman but had only ever seen it in one brochure. It's fun to see more of it.
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Old 04-01-2021, 02:53 PM   #5
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The Chantyman is a very cool boat!
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:09 AM   #6
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Pilou,

You have a great collection of GB/AM advertising materials, data sheets, and photos! I have always liked the "tough/stout" look of the Chantyman but had only ever seen it in one brochure. It's fun to see more of it.

Thank you Frosty,

Indeed we have thousands of docs and photos about American Marine Ltd's boats, yachts, events, live aboard, rendez-vous, also almost the whole collection in PDF and hardcover of American Marine News magazine & Spay magazine. We even have a announcement's card of the passing of Robert J. Newton, founder & President of American Marine Ltd company owner of Chantyman, Grand Banks, Alaskan, Laguna, Admiralty, Eastbay lines of yachts.

At the beguinning, Robert Newton owned and managed a soft drink bottling plant located in Mok Cheong Street of a village called "To Kwa Wan", Hong Kong.

In the 1950s, the soft drink business facing different difficult challenges, Robert Newton and his 2 sons John and Wit started a boat building shipyard located at his bottling plan's parking lot (!) on the side of Junk Bay. They called the company "American Marine Ltd".

Mok Cheong Street still exist, but the To Kwa Wan village is not a city anymore, it has been incorporated in Hong Kong. The area is located very near the former Kong Kai Tak Airport of Hong Kong, so-called one of the world's most dangerous airport. I trust that those who have visited Hong Kong before 1998 remember the old Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport, it was located in the urban area of Hong Kong where is full of high buildings and surrounded by mountains and water on 3 sides. These mountains made taking off and landing very difficult and impressive.

In late 1950s, Robert Newton and his sons built new buildings still on the sea side of Junk Bay where they built many custom motorboats and sailboats in which the Chantyman (motorboat), Admiralty (Motorsailer), 40' sailboat Sparkman and Stevens, then in 1963 the famous 36' Spray. In 1965/66, they started to build the first Grand Banks, a 36', with marine architect Kenneth Smith who had previously designed SPRAY. Then we know the history.

My father's husband travelled to Hong Kong right after he ordered his first Grand Banks, a 42' Classic hull # 52 which was the first or second GB 42 delivered in Europe, in mid 1968. My future husband who was 11 years old at that time, traveled with his father and got the chance to visit the American Marine Ltd's Junk Bay boatyard.

Among all the numerous pictures we have :
Pic #1 : Junk Bay boatyard at its beguinning.

Pics #2, 3, 4 : Chantyman.

Pic #5 : One of the first GB 36' built.

Pic #6 from left to right :
- Joseph Kong, production manager. When American Marine Ltd stopped building wooden boats and closed the Hong Kong Junk Bay boatyard to build fiberglass yachts in Singapore, Mr Kong teamed up with Harvey Halvorsen to create "Kong & Halvorsen Marine & Engineering Company, Ltd" which build boats under the "Kong & Halvorsen" and "Island Gypsy" brand names.
- Robert J Newton,
- Tony Fleming, technical director, who later created Fleming Yachts. Tony Fleming have "the skills of an engineer and the eye of an artist". He started his boatbuilding career with American Marine in Hong Kong first building wooden boats and then in fiberglass. It's Tony Fleming himself who designed and created the Grand Banks 42' Motoryacht.

Pics #7 & #8 : "To Kwa Wan" area to date, where the Grand Banks story started.

Pic #9 : Senator Ted Kennedy aboard a Laguna 38'. In 1972 American Marine Ltd produced in Singapore boatyard the Laguna line, a flush-deck highspeed boat reflecting the popular lines in Europe, powered by twin turbo 637 V8 diesels. On the pic, Phil Harill of Ammarine Ltd, Sausalito, CA, hosted Senator Ted Kennedy aboard a Laguna 38'. Ted Kennedy cruised across San Francisco Bay, from Tiberon to Oakland aboard the Laguna, to attend a football game.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:46 AM   #7
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Chanty is not doing it for me.
You can add me to the list. Proportions are all wrong to me. Truly in the eye of the beholder......
I am guessing that the wings behind the pilothouse are there as a band-aid to offset the too-tall pilothouse and keep it from looking like a phone booth.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:29 PM   #8
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I am guessing that the wings behind the pilothouse are there as a band-aid to offset the too-tall pilothouse and keep it from looking like a phone booth.
LOL .
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:32 PM   #9
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Really neat, Pilou. I can see your family has GB memories going way back.

Coincidentally, I'm about a quarter of the way into Tony Fleming's memoir*. He's in Kenya and not with American Marine yet - but I'm looking forward to that part.

*Riding The Tide: Art, Engineering and a Thirst For Adventure
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I'll settle for my 53 year old '68 GB 32 woodie. Best boat I've ever owned and you know what?, wooden boats never have blisters!
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I'll settle for my 53 year old '68 GB 32 woodie. Best boat I've ever owned and you know what?, wooden boats never have blisters!
No, but they do have rot. So each boat type has it benefits and downfalls. To each their own.
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I'll settle for my 53 year old '68 GB 32 woodie. Best boat I've ever owned and you know what?, wooden boats never have blisters!
Congratulations to you and your boat.

Photos below :

- Grand Banks 32 hull # 001 the very first one built in American Marine’s Hong Kong boatyard.

- Grand Banks 32 hull # 858 reportedly the very last one built in American Marine's Singapore boatyard.
In fact 861 Grand Banks 32 have been built including 3 commercial version nicknamed “Husky”.

- How a Grand Banks 32’ took advantage of high tide in Northern British Columbia
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That 32 is a smart looking boat.
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Old 04-09-2021, 02:52 PM   #14
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I had GB 42-125 which was built for Robert & Mildred Newton, founders of American Marine Ltd. And she is a fine boat still.
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A couple of years ago, I downloaded everything I could find to learn more about my new-to-me 1977 Grand Banks 32. The old Grand Banks website is now gone. Do you have your material online somewhere? I have a website and could build a section for Grand Banks if that would be useful to the group.
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I have a website and could build a section for Grand Banks if that would be useful to the group.
That would be amazing (and I'm only in the shopping stage). I had read many threads on the old GB forum and am now kicking myself that I didn't try to save some of the info. It's a huge loss, IMO.

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A couple of years ago, I downloaded everything I could find to learn more about my new-to-me 1977 Grand Banks 32. The old Grand Banks website is now gone. Do you have your material online somewhere? I have a website and could build a section for Grand Banks if that would be useful to the group.
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Hi Tom

Last January I kindly donated copies of the whole set of my American Marine magazines & Spray magazines in PDF format (for a total of 85 magazines) to TF member "Kurplunk" who introduced the thought to build a ressource about Grand Banks boats in the thread on TF, post #42/43:

https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...m-50512-3.html

Sorry I don't have my material on line, I have too many documents.
Perhaps you should contact Steven (Kurplunk) by PM or by email grandbankspreserve@gmail.com
to join together to combine your resources.
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A couple of years ago, I downloaded everything I could find to learn more about my new-to-me 1977 Grand Banks 32. The old Grand Banks website is now gone. Do you have your material online somewhere? I have a website and could build a section for Grand Banks if that would be useful to the group.
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Tom,
This forum has a sub forum for Grand Banks. Why not upload to here?

There is a thread for those with a GB to check in once to do a member count. That alone could be a sticky.
https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...call-4920.html
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:10 PM   #19
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I had GB 42-125 which was built for Robert & Mildred Newton, founders of American Marine Ltd. And she is a fine boat still.

I have somewhere black & white photos of your Grand Banks 42' Classic when Robert Newton took delivery.
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Hi Pilou, Your own GB 42 heritage, now that is a beauty and a rare one. The ones on yachtworld are all 1997. Was this the only year they were built with the full wide aft cabin?

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