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Florida AICW. Wild.
 

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With a low bow, everything aft of the bow needs to be water tight?

For some pleasure boat designs... I recall in the 60's when "hognose" [e.g. low bow] hulls began to come on the scene. Some builders and purchasers felt that look was "cool".

Never liked their look and it is obvious by the laws of physics that for sea keeping/handling purposes the hognose is dangerous during rough wave conditions.

I wouldn't own a hognosed boat on a bet!
 
I will admit, I could use extra 5 feet on the length of of boat but, over all, I am pleased with my 34ft AT. Every day I should get up, kiss it transom and be thankful for pleasure it brings me.
If the boat were bigger it would just have bigger and perhaps more problems. The design and factory equipped AT is fantastic as an ICW and near coastal boat. Sure it lacks a bigger hanging closet. Only way to cure that is buy a bigger boat. That’s not going to happen. Yup, the NovaKool fridge wont keep the ice cream hard..... I installed a Stainless Lobster and additional 1/2 insulation board, hoping that would help but, it hasn’t. SHRUG. I installed a fuel polishing system and have determined, it’s a nice thing to have and if there were water or crap in the tanks, it would pretty much cure the problem..... The main engine and generator run fine, the A/Cs are relatively new and the soft-start installed on the 16K A/C will make that A/C less of a strain on the Gen when loading up. I have added 5 or 6 additional cabinet made and installed. The hyd assist to raise the owner’s mattress has added significantly to the storage. The Nav equipment could be updated but it works so maybe I will leave that to the next owner. My boat is basically ‘done’. If the next owner doesn’t like or appreciate the upgrades in installed, he can jump up my whosits and not buy my boat.
Yup, I look at the bigger boats both here and in the marina...... What I have learned is, with some exceptions, the larger the boat, the less it leaves the dock.
 
Yup, the NovaKool fridge wont keep the ice cream hard..... I installed a Stainless Lobster and additional 1/2 insulation board, hoping that would help but, it hasn’t.


Which model NovaKool do you have? My RFU9000 will keep ice cream hard enough for short term storage, around 5 - 10* F if it's kept in the loop portion of the evap. Definitely not ideal for long term ice cream storage though.
 
Yup, I look at the bigger boats both here and in the marina...... What I have learned is, with some exceptions, the larger the boat, the less it leaves the dock.

True and it's a general law of nature. I more readily will take my little VW out to the store than starting up my big pickup truck.

However, back to boats, I found that the more easily you setup your boat for a quick "takeoff" the more often you use it. I had my 65ft in a long term slip, and setup docklines for easy release. Could get that boat underway singlehanded within 10 minutes.
 
True and it's a general law of nature. I more readily will take my little VW out to the store than starting up my big pickup truck.

However, back to boats, I found that the more easily you setup your boat for a quick "takeoff" the more often you use it. I had my 65ft in a long term slip, and setup docklines for easy release. Could get that boat underway singlehanded within 10 minutes.


Agreed. At my marina, it seems like most of the sailboats see decent use. For the powerboats, the fishing charter boats see a ton of use, the small ones get used because it's easy, a lot of the mid sized ones do a lot of sitting. The ones at the larger end of the spectrum (there's nothing over 50 feet here at the moment) go out more, as it seems like most of us are more invested in boating than the mid-sized express cruiser crowd.
 
Which model NovaKool do you have? My RFU9000 will keep ice cream hard enough for short term storage, around 5 - 10* F if it's kept in the loop portion of the evap. Definitely not ideal for long term ice cream storage though.

I have a NovaKool RFU 8000, 12vt, 6.8cuft.
I think the major difference is the size.
Yes, the part for the ice cube trays will keep the ice cream almost hard for a few days at the expense of fewer ice cube trays. The temp is 30-25F in the freezer box and even lower in the ice cube compartment. The temp in the fridge box is set for 38F but seldom reaches that point. That is my fault. I go into the fridge many times each day. The Stainless Lobsters automatically allows the fridge to shut off for as many minutes as you designate every user designated hours. This is supposedly to provide a pretend defrost cycle. In reality, it is not the compressor’s fault but rather the humidity inside the boxes that allows ice build up thereby reducing the efficiency of the unit. IF I went into the fridge once or twice a day, everything would operate per specs. LOL. I have put a louvered vent allowing more air behind the box and into the compressor area. I also added a natural convection vent out the back of the cabinet containing fridge. To be honest, I have not noticed any significant improvement after adding the additional 1/2 inch foam insulation board but still a worthwhile addition. Next I will add a computer 5 inch box fan to stir up the air in the compressor area and maybe a 3 inch fan to force the heated air out from behind the fridge.
That will take care of all possible improvements. The Stainless Lobster provides a box fan for inside the fridge box with all the necessary circuitry to control the unit. If I had the physical space on my AT, I would consider a different fridge/freezer. Ah, I forgot to mention, I did replace the door gaskets on both boxes.
The unit cannot be using much power because when I shut off the battery charger over night, there is no noticeable difference in the battery voltage or amp/hours used/remaining on the house batteries the next morning.
There is so much perfume one can put on the pig. IF I had my heart set on hard ice cream over a period of time, I guess I would have to consider an additional stand alone 12 volt freezer chest but, that’s another story.
 
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I will admit, I could use extra 5 feet on the length of of boat but, over all, I am pleased with my 34ft AT. Every day I should get up, kiss it transom and be thankful for pleasure it brings me.
If the boat were bigger it would just have bigger and perhaps more problems. The design and factory equipped AT is fantastic as an ICW and near coastal boat. Sure it lacks a bigger hanging closet. Only way to cure that is buy a bigger boat. That’s not going to happen. Yup, the NovaKool fridge wont keep the ice cream hard..... I installed a Stainless Lobster and additional 1/2 insulation board, hoping that would help but, it hasn’t. SHRUG. I installed a fuel polishing system and have determined, it’s a nice thing to have and if there were water or crap in the tanks, it would pretty much cure the problem..... The main engine and generator run fine, the A/Cs are relatively new and the soft-start installed on the 16K A/C will make that A/C less of a strain on the Gen when loading up. I have added 5 or 6 additional cabinet made and installed. The hyd assist to raise the owner’s mattress has added significantly to the storage. The Nav equipment could be updated but it works so maybe I will leave that to the next owner. My boat is basically ‘done’. If the next owner doesn’t like or appreciate the upgrades in installed, he can jump up my whosits and not buy my boat.
Yup, I look at the bigger boats both here and in the marina...... What I have learned is, with some exceptions, the larger the boat, the less it leaves the dock.

To summarize tour post; i.e. words in song... 1970's!

It ain't the meat it's the motion... That makes your momma wanna rock... It ain't the meat it's the motion... It's the movement it isn't the stock!!

We love our 34' Tolly tri cabin. It's "meat" and its "motion" is what we enjoy on the waters we currently traverse. Our "momma" coat quickly leaves the slip and ... our momma-baby really wants to rock! :thumb:

 
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Outback 50

Shoal draft...3' for a 50 footer.

Pocket & keel protected props

https://www.outbackyachts.com

Hmmm...has an “infinity deck” which is an open transom with removable safety railings. But...the engines are under big hatches on the aft deck where the lazarette normally is. Better be water/wave proof!
 
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Although, the designer (Micheal Peters) has a good pedigree:

Originally a one-man shop, Michael specialized in designing high-speed boats and quickly developed a reputation for style, performance, and quality. His designs have won 17 UIM Offshore World Championships, and over 200 more worldwide wins, including a sweep of 13 consecutive world championships from 2000 through 2012.
 
Rides nice. Plenty room. Looks like really nice boat!
 
The other person involved, Andrew Cilla, president of Luke Brown Yachts, would be no slouch either.
 
It looks like a nice ride on flat water, but then most boats do. With the the lack of "bow up" angle on plane, wondering what 4' seas does to the ride.

Ted
 
It looks like a nice ride on flat water, but then most boats do. With the the lack of "bow up" angle on plane, wondering what 4' seas does to the ride.

Ted

Yes - that nicely designed boat sure does run flat at full-plane speed; which could create a bit of problem as conditions make waves above 4'. That said, doubt I'd want to be pushing to very fast into with any boat that size into 5, 6, or 7+ foot seas.

I imagine her bow could elevated up for taking on some waves at transition speed before plane is reached. Also, trim tabs might do the trick at full plane. However, both ways for bow to raise would become fuel costly in comparison to her general fuel efficiency design for cruising on flat water.
 
Wouldn’t she assume a rather “bow up” attitude if slowed down to 10-15 knots.
One would probably do that anyway.
 
Shallow draft boats with "tunnel protected props" like Dave Gerr's beachable boats don't suffer from the same hump and high bow angle when lots of throttle is applied like other boats:

The Outback 50’s optimal speed/length ratio, a smooth 1.7-2.1, results in a very small “hump” between 12.5 and 15 knots as she transitions from displacement mode to planing mode.

On beamier, heavier boats, that resistance hump is much more pronounced, requiring more effort, power, and fuel to get over the hump and up on plane. And climbing over that hump typically causes the stern to dig in and the bow to rise up, reducing visibility and resulting in an uncomfortable trim angle of up to 5 degrees.

The Outback 50’s Trim Angle curve, on the other hand, peaks at a more comfortable 2 degrees and flattens as the speed increases. The deck angle never gets too far from level, resulting in uncompromised visibility over the bow.

https://www.outbackyachts.com/performance/
 
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Aluminum Camano 36

Being an East Coast dude, I never knew Camano Marine built aluminum boats. This one just showed up on YW. As usual with Boatshed listings few pics and poor descriptions are provided unless you sign up for the Boatshed site. The price seems like a reach for a 1986 boat with a Volvo powerplant but she comes with paravanes. Like the attitude of the gray aluminum.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/camano-marine-36-camano-trawler-3680931/
 

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Being an East Coast dude, I never knew Camano Marine built aluminum boats. This one just showed up on YW. As usual with Boatshed listings few pics and poor descriptions are provided unless you sign up for the Boatshed site. The price seems like a reach for a 1986 boat with a Volvo powerplant but she comes with paravanes. Like the attitude of the gray aluminum.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/camano-marine-36-camano-trawler-3680931/

Nice boat

Surprised at the quite big water cap and limited holding tank cap. Also, with small engine giving her near 4 nmpg at near 8 knots I'd think a bit more than 300 gals fuel tankage would be available. 240 usable fuel [leaving 20% emergency] gives her about 960 mile range. Now... if there were 1000 gal fuel cap her range would be over 3,200 miles. That = cross ocean type range. Problem is to find space for that size tankage, while still keeping her trim in check.

She looks stout enough to handle 7,100 lbs fuel at begining of long voyage... getting approx 0.56 lbs lighter with every mile traveled.
 
This yacht came in at dusk to Solomon's MD. Anyone know what it is?
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This yacht came in at dusk to Solomon's MD. Anyone know what it is?
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Besides that being a really nice, stout looking craft... what is in [disturbing] the water at portside bow?? Does not look like thruster push... unless maybe the first second of the push.
 
Besides that being a really nice, stout looking craft... what is in [disturbing] the water at portside bow?? Does not look like thruster push... unless maybe the first second of the push.

Yup, looks like the surface dropping after the thruster kicked on...like a mini tsunami.
 
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