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Thanks Helmsman! It was terrific meeting you upon my arrival at the marina.

And yeah, you darned betcha about the team. Couldn't agree more. I'll have more to say in my own wordy way before this is over.

If a dingy carried up top were not a personal priority for me, I'd be all over your approach up there. The H38 is a "big" 38, but still we only have so many square feet to work with.
 
Boat names seem to be one of three types:

1) Named after a woman in your life. I offered to name it after my wife, but she instantly declined. That's fine. We all have our own preferences on such things.

2) Named after a character trait. Endurance, Independence, Bounty, etc.

3) Something cute and / or funny.

I'd add a fourth category: "Inside Joke" name. Something that's important to the owner but no one else gets. And sometimes not-so-inside: I recall being docked behind a Hatt 43 DCMY in Petaluma CA named "The Catch." I'm not much of a sports fan so it had to be explained to me: I guess it was owned by Dwight Clark. He caught a football ergo "The Catch." He was a wide receiver so it was his only job in life. I don't see what the fuss was about. But folks on the dock sure got animated when they talked about it.....

Like I said, not much of a sports fan.

Peter
 
I'd add a fourth category: "Inside Joke" name. Something that's important to the owner but no one else gets. And sometimes not-so-inside: I recall being docked behind a Hatt 43 DCMY in Petaluma CA named "The Catch." I'm not much of a sports fan so it had to be explained to me: I guess it was owned by Dwight Clark. He caught a football ergo "The Catch." He was a wide receiver so it was his only job in life. I don't see what the fuss was about. But folks on the dock sure got animated when they talked about it.....

Like I said, not much of a sports fan.

Peter

He won a Super Bowl with a catch. 1981 I think
 
:)

Good one.

Scores of names using Knot for Not, or Nauti. That's fine. I just don't have the knack for coming up with something good.
 
I like Resiliant. It's a good name that may survive successive owners. Finding the right name for a boat is difficult. In your Category #2, it works best when the boat's soul peeks through to give its own name. There's famous 100-year old tug at San Francisco's Hyde Street Pier named "Hercules" that could wear no other name.

I had no choice but rename my boat when I bought her. The prior owner sheepishly disclosed that he had given naming rights to his 10-year old daughter who had apparently recently taken a biology class and christened the boat "Shy Platypus." I felt a Willard 36 had a masculine undertone so seriously considered "Atlas." But I kept coming back to the old child's toy "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down" (best if you sing along). So I guess I ended up in Category 4 - inside joke. But I have left my cartouche - the electrical panels and sub-panels are all engraved with "Weebles." Next owner will have some explaining to do if he/she wants to change it. As an aside, had I known her provenance at the time, I would have restored her launch name "Taras."

Peter

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I like Resiliant. It's a good name that may survive successive owners. Finding the right name for a boat is difficult. In your Category #2, it works best when the boat's soul peeks through to give its own name. There's famous 100-year old tug at San Francisco's Hyde Street Pier named "Hercules" that could wear no other name.

I had no choice but rename my boat when I bought her. The prior owner sheepishly disclosed that he had given naming rights to his 10-year old daughter who had apparently recently taken a biology class and christened the boat "Shy Platypus." I felt a Willard 36 had a masculine undertone so seriously considered "Atlas." But I kept coming back to the old child's toy "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down" (best if you sing along). So I guess I ended up in Category 4 - inside joke. But I have left my cartouche - the electrical panels and sub-panels are all engraved with "Weebles." Next owner will have some explaining to do if he/she wants to change it. As an aside, had I known her provenance at the time, I would have restored her launch name "Taras."

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Thanks Peter. All good names. As said, naming isn't easy.
 
When owners have chatted offline with each other, options chosen are a big topic. I dealt with that for my personal choices.

Where are you on your build, and what are you seeing is a big one. Dealt with that.

But another one is the shipping process. I'll take a crack at this.

Your beautiful new boat is done. Hooray. But now it has to be transported to the other side of the planet. That this can happen, repeatedly, and reliably is itself a marvel of modern business.

In the pics you receive during the build you might notice the hull is sitting in a metal cradle. Still in that cradle, its shrink wrapped well down into the bottom paint. NO gel coat or stainless is left exposed.

For obvious reasons, not the least of which is to keep length under 40 ft, the swim platform isn't attached at this point, the arch or mast is folded down. Stuff that can stick out, get bumped or poked, is dealt with later

The yard gets it loaded onto a barge, for transport to the shipyard in Shanghai, a day or so away. Its lifted out of the barge, and ultimately onto the ship that brings it to the US.

Sounds easy. The devil is in the details.

Container ships are used. The whole container shipping business is built around standardized container lengths and designs, and attachment points for the cranes to use. The original units were 20 ft. units, but in time 40 ft became common. In the industry these things work off of TEU's, or Twenty Foot Equivalent Unit. So a 40 ft container is 2 TEU's.

There is a gadget used for odd cargo called a "flat rack". Basically its a strong bottom, upright ends, but open on the sides and top. In Shanghai, the boat and its cradle are lifted onto a flat rack, and the flat rack is loaded onto the ship. This is a lot easier to understand when seen.

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So your boat is strapped to the cradle, and cradle is strapped to a flat rack. The flat rack can then sit on top of other containers, but nothing on top of the boat.

Somewhere in the process of having been loaded and the ship underway, you will receive from Helmsman a Bill Of Lading. At this point, your boat is no longer in China or Chinese hands, but now in the legal hands of Helmsman.

The whole business of shipping is handled through specialized shipping agents. Those folks find the ships destined for the port needed, book it, and handle the needed paperwork. In the days leading up to my boat's departure the exact ship designation changed a couple of times. No worries on that, at all. No need to be surprised if it happens to you.

Helmsman will be communicating with you throughout this process. You know where you are, when the departure is expected, and the target ETA at the destination port. I can't emphasize "target" ETA enough. More on that in a moment.

Pretty much everyone is using the various online websites that track ships and shipping. Its kinda fun to know where your boat is. It helps satisfy the curiosity about the schedule to come. Your friends and family will be asking "where is she now?", and you can give the cheerful answer Panama Canal. :).

But, I urge anyone to remain patient. Remain very flexible about any plans based on arrival time.

Think about this for a moment. NONE of this timeline is controllable by Helmsman. The ship will depart when its ready. Along the way the ship can have weather related delays where they might detour around a storm a bit. The ship is likely to make a few stops between Shanghai and your destination port. For east coast deliveries transiting the Panama Canal introduces additional chances for some delay. Again, NONE of this is controllable.

Meanwhile the Helmsman team has their own plans to make to offload the ship and bring it into some marina. They are doing this for your boat, but they are running a business too, and are juggling a number of boats, not just yours.

With each passing day of shipment, the window of the ETA begins to narrow, until you get close to D day and things begin to firm up.

I'll repeat this again for emphasis: don't feel like you can make solid plans well in advance. Certainly not as it ships. Probably not until at best 2 days or so in advance of actual arrival. If you make solid plans that turn out to be premature, that's on you.

Once your ship arrives, the unloading schedule and process is at the total whim of the shipyard and its crew. The level of communication of what they plan to do, and when they plan to do it is entirely up to them.

All of this might only make sense using the example of my own boat. The ETA in Norfolk was originally estimated for June 24. Pretty quickly that moved to June 25. Meanwhile yard staff is communicating to Helmsman probable offload on June 26. On June 27 I get word its being offloaded on June 28, "sometime in the afternoon." The ship arrived in Norfolk a day or so earlier but was at anchor outside the docks until it had a slot at the docks.

I learn in this process that each port has its own rules and habits. Some are better than others in communications, and each has its rules about how it will handle offloading. Your experience may well differ.

The Helmsman team at this point has two key players. First, one guy gets aboard the ship, hours in advance. He's working with the ship crew to see your boat and hopefully find no obvious dings or damage. He's working with the crew about when to expect offloading. There are several different ways the crew can choose to lift the boat, and they talk through the options the ship crew prefers (One, lift the entire flat rack onto land, two, lift the cradle off the flat rack, and three get straps under it and lift directly into the water). In my case, Norfolk crew won't touch the shrink wrap, so it had to go to land first, then to water. They fiddled around for the longest time trying to locate the appropriate shackles for the flat rack.

So from the ship it was put ashore on the dock. The Helmsman guy aboard ship then begins to strip off shrink wrap. And then we all wait, and wait, and wait, until shipyard crew is again ready to lift it off the cradle and into the water. The cradle it began life in remains at the dock as scrap metal.

And its a flurry of activity to lift every hatch and look for any sign at all of water leaking in! Key point!

Meanwhile, other Helmsman crew has a tow boat lined up. And its floating around next to the ship for hours just waiting. And waiting. For safety reasons your boat is shipped with virtually no fuel aboard. So its lifted into the water unwrapped, but dry. The tow boat tows you to a nearby fuel dock where you take aboard a needed amount. Some water is taken on. The engines are fired up, and of course everything gets a hard initial look. Shaft seal OK? Check. That sort of thing. And from there, its about motoring to wherever it will spend the night.

In some cases, it works out that Helmsman can invite owners to attend this birthing and delivery process. I was lucky, and am grateful I had the chance. This is a very hard work day for the Helmsman crew. Its a lot of hurry up and wait, then hurry up again.

The tow boat captain is in charge of his boat, and its a work day for him, and he's unlikely to want a crowd of tourists aboard. So if you get the shot to do this, don't even think about turning this into a family picnic on a boat. When its time to spring into action, your best job is to stay out of the way while the Helmsman crew goes through quite a series of checklist things to make sure all is well and you are not sinking.

Be responsible. Bring your own life jacket.

In my case, the boat was delivered to Norfolk. For a host of reasons the plan was to motor north for two days to my home marina where commissioning would be completed.

So that said as background, lets back up a bit. I get word on a Tuesday my boat is to be unloaded on Wednesday afternoon. I drive 4 hours to Norfolk. I'm to meet Scott at a designated marina for the tow boat at noon. Off we go, and begin to float in wait for the rest of the afternoon. In the blazing sun in an open boat. By the time the boat was finally in the water it was close to sundown, we were at the fuel dock at dusk, and in a slip after dark. Scott starts prepping the boat, attaching anchor, organizing some supplies, etc. I volunteer to find a grocery store, and am hitting there close to 10pm, sprint through there and redeliver groceries to the boat. My dinner was a convenience store sandwich at 10:30 and asleep by 11.

I'll spare you the rest and the finer details. I just want to make two key points: 1) nothing about this is controllable by Helmsman, so don't expect to hear a plan and timeline. Their ability to scramble on the fly and continuously react to whatever comes is what makes this happen as well as it does. 2) it can be a LOOONG day on the water, in an open boat. Bring sunscreen. Ladies, there is no head aboard such boats, and there is no telling in advance when you will be near one. If you accept the invitation to join in this day, just know that. I accepted and my wife declined.

Its a great thing to experience if you can. Your head will spin watching the team do its thing. Sit back and watch. I wouldn't miss it.

I've had 10 days to absorb and process this. Its impressive, but wish I had a better word. Your perfectly built boat arrives at its first marina night, shipped from across the seas, and my case in flawless condition.

And you my friend will be exhausted, excited, and the head still swimming at the end of this long day.

For the Helmsman crew its another day at work, doing what they do, and doing it damned well.
 
The delivery experience may vary from one boat to another. Even though we wound up attending the delivery of the wrong boat in Seattle last November, it was a very fun experience. We were aboard Scott’s boat and very comfortable. We were warm and cozy on the heated fly bridge drinking coffee and eating banana bread. Scott and his crew were very gracious hosts and we learned a lot just waiting for the offload. Van was aboard the container ship and reported the discrepancy of the hull color. The boat, which turned out to be Helmsman’s “Mishy Jean”, was dropped into the harbor. Van and his crew boarded the boat and drove it to Lake Union. We followed the boat from the container terminal to Lake Union and got a good introduction to going through the locks.

We learned in the process that some ports don’t permit offloading into the water. When our boat was offloaded in Miami, it was taken to Port Everglades and re-wrapped with shrink wrap for the trip back to the west coast. While we were waiting for a yacht transport to bring her home, Scott checked on the boat while on an east coast delivery. He sent some reassuring photos. He returned to Port Everglades for loading her aboard the transport ship. Scott and Van met the ship in Victoria and cleared customs in Port Townsend. Scott single-handed the boat to Lake Union, transiting the big locks at night.
 
Thanks for that Doug.

Chipping in with your experience makes the point perfectly.

Your experience involved being aboard a nice climate controlled boat snacking on banana bread and drinking coffee. Lap of luxury. I baked in the sun.

Your delivery had the snafu. Mine arrived flawless.

As different as night and day.

Helmsman reacts and deals with each unique set of circumstances.
 
It was such a treat to meet you while commissioning Resilient a few weeks ago. Thanks to you and your wife for allowing me to shadow while Scott and Roger were working with you during your commissioning. After my day aboard you were in great shape and well on your way!

Can't wait to get delivery of my 38Pilothouse in January.
Greg
 
It was such a treat to meet you while commissioning Resilient a few weeks ago. Thanks to you and your wife for allowing me to shadow while Scott and Roger were working with you during your commissioning. After my day aboard you were in great shape and well on your way!

Can't wait to get delivery of my 38Pilothouse in January.
Greg

Great meeting you too. Sorry we didn't get to chat more, but as you saw I was pretty engaged trying to absorb a lot of information.

Its a great boat. Confident you will like yours as much as I like mine.
 
When you see pictures of helm stations with acres of room and a collection of plotters it’s easy to covet that. Then of course you stop to think those plotters run $5k apiece and more, plus installation.

I ordered everything I thought I needed. Fits nicely without the extra acreage. If cramped one could easy move the VHF elsewhere or smaller pads down. Didn’t need to so didn’t. Happy with the layout.
 

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Lots of chat over the months about the Vulcan anchor. Does it fit? What about the bale?

Yeah it fits. Fits just fine.

The straight bale is removed. If you look you can see the crook of the shank prevents the anchor from lifting off and getting out of control in weather. I don’t think it’s necessary to order a hoop bale. Seems fine as-is.

The anchor isn’t touching the flaired tabs / flaps below the roller. But if things started to roll they will prevent excessive flopping around.
 

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When you see pictures of helm stations with acres of room and a collection of plotters it’s easy to covet that. Then of course you stop to think those plotters run $5k apiece and more, plus installation.

I ordered everything I thought I needed. Fits nicely without the extra acreage. If cramped one could easy move the VHF elsewhere or smaller pads down. Didn’t need to so didn’t. Happy with the layout.

Layout looks good. What are the two smaller panels? One is AP, the other…?
 
Yes, one is autopilot, and the other is the Mercury engine stats display.

I have not had time on the water with it but am liking the layout.
 
Yes, one is autopilot, and the other is the Mercury engine stats display.

I have not had time on the water with it but am liking the layout.

Of course I forgot about the engine display. If the installer connected an N2K cable from the engine display to the network, you can display your engine info on it also. I have the RPM’s and a couple of others set up that way
 
I do have engine information on the MFD. I’ve only begun to play with configuration of it.
 
Lots of chat over the months about the Vulcan anchor. Does it fit? What about the bale?

Yeah it fits. Fits just fine.

The straight bale is removed. If you look you can see the crook of the shank prevents the anchor from lifting off and getting out of control in weather. I don’t think it’s necessary to order a hoop bale. Seems fine as-is.

The anchor isn’t touching the flaired tabs / flaps below the roller. But if things started to roll they will prevent excessive flopping around.

Hi FWT,
Congrats on your new H38 and what a great writeup you did about it. We've been busy this summer cruising the Inside Passage in the PNW.
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This is our virgin tour and EmBark is running smoothly. At 191 hours, we've had zero issues. I'm just now catching up on this string.

I agree, there is no need for the curved bale. However, I left the straight pin bale in - picture attached.
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We've dropped anchor 14 times on this trip, some in stormy winds. I'm super happy with it as it digs into the mud and sand and holds well. I left the pin in because it helps stabilize the anchor when we're underway (slightly compressed to the roller). We've been in some heavy seas and if that anchor is oh so bit loose I can see it swing a bit from side to side. I really don't want it to bang on the flared tabs. To snug it up I just tap the windless up so that the anchor is just to the pin. It also keeps the point of the anchor further away from the bow as it tends to yank around when lifting and just makes me feel better.ultra 2.jpg

I might be splitting hairs, but if you find it swaying in beam seas you might want to put it back in, just don't throw that pin away. I think you'll find it works well. Keep up with the reviews!

Tom
 
Tom

Many thanks for that. I’m still in the extended commissioning process of getting things squared away. Boat hauled later this week to drill for transducer installation. Other projects being tackled day by day. So I’ve yet to hit the fun part, and try the anchor. I absolutely won’t be disposing of the bale. Me being me, I’ll likely end up trying it both ways before settling on my preference. Initial take is that both work, so pick one. The big thing is the anchor does indeed fit, which for a time was the big question.
 
Many months ago on this site someone posted an adage about boat projects. I was chuckling at myself pretty hard today remembering that as I screwed up something.

The right way to do a project is usually the way you do it after doing it wrong two times first.

LOL

I applied the name to the boat today. Let’s just call it the first try!

Lesson One

The cap rail has some curve to it , humped a bit in the center. If you use the cap rail as your registration points you have a curve in the lettering. Which causes them to not lay correctly as you tape up long flat paper. And it becomes simply uneven.

Lesson Two.

Don’t try to apply stretchy vinyl letters in 90 degrees of direct sunlight. As you peel off the paper the letters stretch like play dough.

Lesson Three

Sometimes those cute little pointy corners don’t want to immediately unpeel. Nothing good happens then.

But the big thing is the name is applied. I’m legal. Pretty will have to come after ordering a second round.
 

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Many months ago on this site someone posted an adage about boat projects. I was chuckling at myself pretty hard today remembering that as I screwed up something.

The right way to do a project is usually the way you do it after doing it wrong two times first.

LOL

I applied the name to the boat today. Let’s just call it the first try!

Lesson One

The cap rail has some curve to it , humped a bit in the center. If you use the cap rail as your registration points you have a curve in the lettering. Which causes them to not lay correctly as you tape up long flat paper. And it becomes simply uneven.

Lesson Two.

Don’t try to apply stretchy vinyl letters in 90 degrees of direct sunlight. As you peel off the paper the letters stretch like play dough.

Lesson Three

Sometimes those cute little pointy corners don’t want to immediately unpeel. Nothing good happens then.

But the big thing is the name is applied. I’m legal. Pretty will have to come after ordering a second round.
Yep, good 'first' try!

A few ways to get it right. One is to do layout lines with painter's tape.
With a Sharpie you can mark any spacing marks on the tape.
 
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Oh I used plenty of tape.

Wrongly.

LOL

After an after-mission cocktail and a smoke, staring at it and reflecting on my various sins, I have a collection of steps to do differently.
 
Some comment about electronics might be helpful.

It seems pretty much everyone struggles at least a little bit on the brand selection. I went with Simrad. I've been so locked into post-delivery commissioning chores I have not had much time on the water with it, but so far its proving to be what I was looking for.

Having said that, the point of this post for new owners is to just know that messing with it, learning it, getting settings right, and getting all pieces to talk nicely with each other does take time. Don't expect to just jump aboard and go once the last cord has been plugged in.

There are simply a series of small things that happen.

I ordered a Navionics chip. Before use, you have to go online with Navionics to register the chip and download the latest update onto the chip. Its one of those fingernail sized chips, and I need my home PC to plug that into.

So I take the box home and go to register. I can't. The only thing in the box is the plastic holder for the chip you use to put it into the PC. The electronics installer had placed the chip in the Simrad MFD. So, that doesn't happen today.

So the next day at the boat I retrieve that. That night again I go to register. I can't. The chip was delivered to me with the rest of the electronics boxes 6 months earlier. Navionics has a 2 month window between purchase and registration. So nothing happens that night.

Next day I'm on the phone with Navionics. 2 hours later, after digging out and sending a PDF of the purchase receipt they go up their chain and make an exception to restart my purchase date. Then 1.5 hours to download the latest updates onto the chip.

The elapsed time to get through all of that is days.

So I need an MMSI number to plug into the VHF for AIS transmit capability. I go to register via Boat US, and that registration just won't work on my iPhone. Another evening to-do list item on the home PC.

Getting the VHF to "take it" and save it was maybe 2 hours.

You register the Simrad gear via their app. Except you can't complete it without another blank chip card, used in downloading the most recent software update. With no Best Buy near me I'm stumped and stopped. Two days later it occurs to me drug stores often have things like this, and they did, and I'm in luck and back in business.

You get where I'm going with this. I won't list them all, but lots of little roadblocks need to be handled one at a time.

And it just takes time. Plan for it.
 
I will say something further about Simrad.

I can chuckle about it now. It wasn't funny at the time.

As you research brand names, and what the strong and weak points are on each, one thing repeatedly said was the autopilot hydraulic pump from Simrad was the best one out there. I saw numerous comments where owners used that pump in non-Simrad setups when they could.

Well, nothing is bullit-proof.

While the odds of getting a defective pump were quite low, the odds are never zero. And I hit the defect lotto. The day after the pump was installed I lift the cockpit lazaret hatch to stow something and immediately see hydraulic fluid around the pump and the deck plates. I notice this just as I'm leaving the boat for a week.

So a week later I have a tech aboard to diagnose. It wasn't a loose line, but in fact a leak in the pump itself. Air shipped one in, back to install. I'm back in action, two weeks after discovering the issue.

No one to blame for this. I'm not mad. Its just another example that stuff happens, and the extended commissioning time does take time.
 
This is a healthy reminder that a boat is a series of problems yet to be revealed. Especially a brand new boat with all new electronics and other systems.

I want to say how much I appreciate this detailed diary of the arrival of Resilient and all the efforts to make it resilient. I hope everyone buying a new boat--whether from Helmsman or whomever--will read this excellent summary. And yes, sometimes you win the wrong lottery. I lost the same pump lottery on the last boat.



Or you get lucky like Tom and Jill on EmBark who seem to have just jumped into their gorgeous boat and gone to Alaska and are on their way home.
 
One thing to consider is where you apply for an MMSI. I would suggest that you go with the FCC MMSI. That means you will also get a Ship’s Radio License first as part of the process. The reason to go with the FCC MMSI is that the database that maintains that number is available to international search and rescue teams while the Boat US MMSI is not. So, if you plan to travel to the Bahamas, or through Canada, having this MMSI is the “right” one to get.

I have seen some debates online as to why the Boat US MMSI is sufficient, but if traveling internationally, I want my information accessible to search and rescue operators when they need it.
 
This is a healthy reminder that a boat is a series of problems yet to be revealed. Especially a brand new boat with all new electronics and other systems.

I want to say how much I appreciate this detailed diary of the arrival of Resilient and all the efforts to make it resilient. I hope everyone buying a new boat--whether from Helmsman or whomever--will read this excellent summary. And yes, sometimes you win the wrong lottery. I lost the same pump lottery on the last boat.



Or you get lucky like Tom and Jill on EmBark who seem to have just jumped into their gorgeous boat and gone to Alaska and are on their way home.

Many thanks!
 
One thing to consider is where you apply for an MMSI. I would suggest that you go with the FCC MMSI. That means you will also get a Ship’s Radio License first as part of the process. The reason to go with the FCC MMSI is that the database that maintains that number is available to international search and rescue teams while the Boat US MMSI is not. So, if you plan to travel to the Bahamas, or through Canada, having this MMSI is the “right” one to get.

I have seen some debates online as to why the Boat US MMSI is sufficient, but if traveling internationally, I want my information accessible to search and rescue operators when they need it.

Good advice to be posting here.

But for me its too late. I already did the MMSI via Boat US
 
Good advice to be posting here.

But for me its too late. I already did the MMSI via Boat US

If you haven’t already had it added to your AIS, you could just apply for the FCC MMSI and apply that one. If you have added it, just keep rolling! :)
 
This is a healthy reminder.....

Or you get lucky like Tom and Jill on EmBark, who seem to have just jumped into their gorgeous boat, gone to Alaska, and are on their way home.

MMM not just luck. EmBark was in commission for 4 weeks and the last two I lived aboard. I made coffee, brought in donuts, most mornings to the team, tried to break things (successful twice), did the "dry run" as if I were anchored running everything.

Scott said in passing he hasn't "had that relationship" (I think a customer hanging out) before.

I said in return "Im going to be your best customer ever"

It was the most sincere laugh I ever got out of Scott. So either he thought I was funny or I had a very long way to go to meet my goal.

We were very lucky to have a team that would put up with all my questions and find every issue/bug before we left. It was awesome support, sincere in everyway. If I were young and not retired I'd volunteer to be a part of that team, building spreadsheets of checklists, and delivering customer boats. I wonder if they really know how cool a job they have..

Bottom line - I thought a new boat wouldnt have any issues, they all do and don't stress over it, if it's a Helmsman. our vessel was 100% ready after commissioning, they will take care of things - even if your the 2nd best customer.
 
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