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Old 08-26-2019, 11:12 AM   #81
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Racor, the fuel filter people, sells a vacuum gauge specifically for this purpose. It is marked with three vacuum ranges: 0-7" is normal, 7-10" is yellow, and 10" and above is red.


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This is the same gauge I put on both of my Racors. With to location of my filters normal at rest vacuum is about 3.5. After a recent trip to Catalina and inspection of the engine room I noticed my port Racor vacuum indicator needle was left behind at about 15. I changed the filter which did not look dirty at all but after that, vac came back down to normal. Love these gauges because I don't have to look at them while running at speed. Just check them when convenient.
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:31 PM   #82
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I don't use a wrench to take the Racor "T" handle gauges off. It spins off by hand just like the original "T" handle.

I take tha "T" handle gauge off and place it on an absorbent pad while I replace the element and top off the fuel. About 2 minutes.

I reinstall the ""T handle gauge, by hand.

I don't see your issue with the "T" handle gauge. Thousands are sold by Racor without consumer complaints. Unless you are clumsy and drop the gauge, or knock it into the bilge, there is no possible way the gauge will get damaged.

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I've had the 2 "T" handle gauges on my Racors for 19 years and never had any issues.

Had them on my previous boat for 15 years without damage.

The real truth is you don't like Racor.

What do you use to filter diesel?
Their are more than a few other filter heads out there. Racor is not the be all and end all. I use Davco. No vacuum gauges needed. When the clear bowl fills to the top it's time to change the filter soon but not immediately.
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But we all go down into the ER for the quick once around every hour anyway don't we? (-;
Not when you have to pull up the salon floor hatches to do so.
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Davco is a delight to live with , the only hassle can be an insurance survey , as the plastic dome may not last long enough in a fire.

Not sure the SS bowl stuck on the bottom of many labeled "marine " filters does anything , but it keeps the insurance folks happy.
Put a metal can over the top, a poor man's heat shield.
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"Put a metal can over the top, a poor man's heat shield."

That probably works great , but most surveyors are looking for "flaws" that require expensive repairs to offset their cost to survey.
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Of course it would work but I wasn't serious. However, a fixed shield could be fashioned without much expense with just a bit of imagination.
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"Put a metal can over the top, a poor man's heat shield."

That probably works great , but most surveyors are looking for "flaws" that require expensive repairs to offset their cost to survey.
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Their are more than a few other filter heads out there. Racor is not the be all and end all. I use Davco. No vacuum gauges needed. When the clear bowl fills to the top it's time to change the filter soon but not immediately.
Davco...they do make a nice filter, used by many trucks, but does it meet the 2.5 minute flame resistance standard? I have never checked.

While I have a lot of respect for Tony Athens, I don't subscribe to his spin on primary program. I think a close second to Racor turbine series are Separ, a well made filter with some nice features, including flame resistance, but elements are not nearly as easy to come by. You can buy Racor elements everywhere, that's a valuable attribute.
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Not when you have to pull up the salon floor hatches to do so.
IIRC, On the Defever 44's and 44+5"s I've been on, the ER was accessed by a door aft of the forward stateroom?? Nice set up.

On boats we've chartered wherein the only (or easies) access was from salon hatches, it was pretty easy to pop 'em open and take a peek in there. Personally, I consider it a design flaw if the ER was difficult to access underway.
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While I have a lot of respect for Tony Athens, I don't subscribe to his spin on primary program. I think a close second to Racor turbine series are Separ, a well made filter with some nice features, including flame resistance, but elements are not nearly as easy to come by. You can buy Racor elements everywhere, that's a valuable attribute.

I agree that it is nice to be able to find Racor elements almost anywhere, anytime in North America. They aren’t all that expensive either. They also are pretty easy to change without making a mess, even for me. I can’t make a mess doing almost anything.
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Put a metal can over the top, a poor man's heat shield.
FWIW - I have had great results by adding 'cheap' cameras that can be viewed from anywhere on the boat.
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I agree that it is nice to be able to find Racor elements almost anywhere, anytime in North America. They aren’t all that expensive either. They also are pretty easy to change without making a mess, even for me. I can’t make a mess doing almost anything.
I have had Racor 500 or 900 filters on past boats for over 25 years and they are fine. Also adding spin-on's per Tony Athens in one case allowed me to compare directly to the Racors. The spin-on's were much easier to replace m had 5 times less gaskets and issues and also had much more filtration area and ability to hold contaminants before changing. We used about 1,200 gallons of fuel per season over those years and since we did not buy new boats we almost always had a fuel issue to deal with.
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IIRC, On the Defever 44's and 44+5"s I've been on, the ER was accessed by a door aft of the forward stateroom?? Nice set up.

On boats we've chartered wherein the only (or easies) access was from salon hatches, it was pretty easy to pop 'em open and take a peek in there. Personally, I consider it a design flaw if the ER was difficult to access underway.
Yes, the DeFever 44 engine rooms are quite easy to get into. Love it. But, many trawlers do not have walk-in ERs. Monk 36, Krogen 42 for example have floor hatches. The ER on a DeFever 49 RPH (Plan A model) is acceses via a ladder underneath a countertop. So, on these boats and I suspect many others, underway inspection is simply not very easy.
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I agree that it is nice to be able to find Racor elements almost anywhere, anytime in North America. They aren’t all that expensive either. They also are pretty easy to change...
Envy! They cost $80 each in Australia. I buy from USA,even with shipping + duty comes out cheaper.
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Envy! They cost $80 each in Australia. I buy from USA,even with shipping + duty comes out cheaper.

$19 plus freight from West Aus
$16 if buying 24 or more

Freight is $40 for a dozen, same for 24


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