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Old 03-01-2020, 10:25 AM   #1
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Bar Crossing - Rescue

I guess better safe than sorry. A couple on a 44 vessel airlifted to safety due to bar conditions. https://komonews.com/news/local/vide...f-oregon-coast
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Old 03-01-2020, 10:48 AM   #2
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Not much to go on there. For example, why it was unsafe to wait for better conditions? I'm not second-guessing. I'd just like to hear the whole story.
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If there was no medical emergency, maybe it was a mechanical problem?
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It begs the question why they didn't stay with the vessel. Now when it washes ashore somewhere, who's problem is it going to be?


Are you dying or sinking? If not, stay with the vessel.
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One plausible scenario...they were adrift and heading into where waves were breaking over the bar.
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I agree. No mention was made of mechanical or health issues. It sounds like they were waiting for better bar conditions and gave up. Could it be as simple as one or both were really seasick?
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Many people ask for help that are just plain scared or worn out.....willing to lose boats worth big bucks and just dont care any more.
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:18 PM   #8
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Rough Columbia River Bar crossing, so abandon ship? 12 foot seas. Not the complete story, but did this cap't check the weather before going into 12 foot waves?

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020...gon-coast.html
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Have had people asking to leave their boats in even less....when seasick for days, people will ask for a gun to shoot themselves.

Scared people often make no sense.
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Looked like a nice boat from the air
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Another writeup. better details:

https://www.chinookobserver.com/news...93d48d919.html
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Not sure there are really any more or better details to really know what was going on.

Stories like this bring about a 5 second story board through my head as I have lived through enough of them.

It usually takes several pages of detailed writing before I even remotely begin to believe what might be the actual true, full story.

Even now people pump me for my beliefs on the Kobe Bryant helo crash. I tell them pretty much whatever they hear is garbage. I won't discuss my real feelings till I personally read a NTSB report of at least a couple hundred pages worth of professional investigation.
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:43 PM   #13
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Many people ask for help that are just plain scared or worn out.....willing to lose boats worth big bucks and just dont care any more.
That's my guess as well, just didn't want to say it. It's hard to imagine that level of fear unless you've been there.

I was a two day hike (no trails) into the mountains near here and had an experience which opened a window of understanding into what fear can do.

My friends left our high alpine camp to bag the peak and I chose to downclimb alone into a small cirque feeding another watershed that was ringed in waterfalls. The waterfalls were making so much noise I didn't hear much on the way down, but once there the sound of a Grizzly roaring it's head off could clearly be heard. I didn't know if it was screaming at me or something else because of the echoing rock walls and noise from the waterfalls.

There were several times, as I made my way out of the cirque and climbed back up to our camp, that I had to hunker down in a hollow, calm down, and get my head straight. I can see now why people who are lost or stressed make such unfathomable choices. I heard the sound again decades later in a CBC radio story...it was two fairly big Grizzly cubs fighting over a kill.

The boaters might have just given up.
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Many people ask for help that are just plain scared or worn out.....willing to lose boats worth big bucks and just dont care any more.

I think that's it. But annoying for it to then become "our" problem and risk to rescue them, and likely "our" problem when the boat washes ashore and is no longer insured. Makes me wonder how an insurance company would feel about paying for a boat where the owner elected to abandon it like that. And even if you abandoned the boat knowing you wouldn't get any insurance money for it, you would then cancel your policy, right? So now when it washes up a month later, it's uninsured and now a public burden.


Hopefully there were greater mitigating circumstances in this case. I just hate it when people don't take responsibility and ownership of their own decisions, and all the ensuing consequences.
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Rough Columbia River Bar crossing, so abandon ship? 12 foot seas. Not the complete story, but did this cap't check the weather before going into 12 foot waves?...]
I agree. Also, boating on the Oregon Coast in the winter? Why?

With the last known position of the boat given, someone will go salvage the boat.
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This'll give you an inkling as to why I was so concerned...the cirque was so small and the lake took up most of it, so they were only a couple hundred feet away:



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We don't know. If we knew more we might both criticize their lack of preparedness and applaud their decision to get help when it was needed. I always try to have a Plan A and a Plan B and even a Plan C. I don't know if they did or how good they were. However, at some point you switch to Plan Help, whatever letter you assign. Too many try to save face and wait too long.
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Fear eliminates most of the rational decision making suggestions some are making here.
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Fear eliminates most of the rational decision making suggestions some are making here.
Wifey B: Or leads to an extremely rational decision.
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Wifey B: Or leads to an extremely rational decision.
Guess you have never seen real fear.....to me if you are still thinking rationally...you are only "scared".

Fear can go to shock and be hardly detectable.
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