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11-25-2020, 04:54 AM
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City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 2,055
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AC condensate drain routing??
How do most people run condensate drain line for their AC? Do you install a separate small mushroom thru hull, or to a small sump pump? If the latter, how does this differ from running to the bilge, a specifically called out no-no?
Im pretty sure I know the answer, but since I've only installed these systems in dry climates where condensate is nearly a non-issue, I thought I'd ping the bigger brain if TF. Weebles will ultimately live in Florida, so plenty of condensate.
Thanks in advance
Peter
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1970 Willard 36 Sedan Trawler
Current Location: Ensenada MX
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11-25-2020, 05:48 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Obsession
Vessel Model: Transpac Eagle 40
Join Date: Aug 2014
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On “Obsession” an Eagle 40 I drain the pilot house and cabin A/C into the shower sump forward. The PO drained the salon unit into the bilge but I opted to install a sump box which drains into the galley sink discharge.
The pilot house unit was high enough that it could have been drained overboard but I did not want to add another through hull. Even in NC the A/C units produce a lot of condensate and I try to keep a dry bilge.
Steelydon
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11-25-2020, 07:05 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 22,681
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Shower sump.
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11-25-2020, 07:15 AM
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City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 2,055
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
Shower sump.
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Good thought. Unfortunately, my shower is very low in the boat. I run a Whale diaphragm pump direct. No sump. Mostly a good thing I suppose.
Is there a benefit to running a sump vs direct overboard, assuming there is adequate downward run for the drain?
These feel like really basic questions, but it also feels like either I'm over-thinking, or missing something. On this one, most likely the former.....
Peter
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1970 Willard 36 Sedan Trawler
Current Location: Ensenada MX
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11-25-2020, 09:07 AM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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My forward AC and anchor locker both drain into the shower sump. Does your shower drain utilize a float switch? If so, I would tee the condensate line into the shower drain before the pump. If not, I would pump the condensate to an above water through hull fitting.
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11-25-2020, 09:10 AM
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City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
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I'm in the same boat  My two 16k AC's drain to the bilge, and I want a dry bilge. Both are too low for direct overboard. Looks like it will be a sump to install - two of them. Both showers use Gulper pumps and have no sumps - hate to add another item that needs service
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11-25-2020, 09:11 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvweebles
Good thought. Unfortunately, my shower is very low in the boat. I run a Whale diaphragm pump direct. No sump. Mostly a good thing I suppose.
Is there a benefit to running a sump vs direct overboard, assuming there is adequate downward run for the drain?
These feel like really basic questions, but it also feels like either I'm over-thinking, or missing something. On this one, most likely the former.....
Peter
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Every boat is a little different...can give credible suggestions (just what one has done on their boat) without complete info.
Probably overthinking....there are s many ways, just depending on YOUR situation.
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11-25-2020, 09:11 AM
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City: Southport north of Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,695
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvweebles
Good thought. Unfortunately, my shower is very low in the boat. I run a Whale diaphragm pump direct. No sump. Mostly a good thing I suppose.
Is there a benefit to running a sump vs direct overboard, assuming there is adequate downward run for the drain?
These feel like really basic questions, but it also feels like either I'm over-thinking, or missing something. On this one, most likely the former.....
Peter
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If you can run directly overboard, more power to you, but many AC pans are below the waterline with their condensate ending up either in the bilge of a sump. Down here where condensate is measures in gallons per day, we have enough humidity to fight without running it into an open bilge where it also contributes to engine corrosion.
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Panama City area
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11-25-2020, 09:37 AM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Catalina 381
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,629
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I have no shower sumps, so my forward A/C dumps to the bilge (although I'd like to change this). The aft and salon units are higher above the waterline, so they follow the factory provided arrangement of the 2 condensate lines teed together and then running to a thru hull for gravity drainage over the side.
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11-25-2020, 09:46 AM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116
Join Date: Oct 2017
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On my AT34,
Chain locker into the forward bilge. Yes I have a bilge pump in that bilge.
Shower and sink drain onto a sump with a float switch.
Galley drains, directly overboard.
2 A/C condensate, directly overboard.
I suppose I could route the chain locker into the the shower/sink sump.
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11-25-2020, 09:48 AM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Another way is to install an eductor in the raw water outlet line from your A/C condensor. It sucks any condensate in with the raw water and discharges it overboard.
See: https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=2756613
David
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11-25-2020, 09:52 AM
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Guru
City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Catalina 381
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidM
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That's what I've been looking at for my forward A/C, as I hate the condensate going into the bilge (even though it's routed to the main bilge that's not perfectly dry anyway).
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11-25-2020, 12:11 PM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,344
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If you use the shower sump be certain to add cleaner or something to kill growth if it stays wet especially if you are not using the boat for a while.
Most sumps just dont dry out completely. Of course running the show will flush it out as well.
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11-25-2020, 12:43 PM
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City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Never Say Never
Vessel Model: President 41 DC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 10,494
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Mine go to the shower sump too.
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